JK Molina grew Tweet Hunter to over $1 Million in ARR & recently sold the business. With 175,000+ Followers on Twitter, JK is now showing you how to monetize (not grow) your audience at Tweets and Clients. Lot’s of sales and startups lessons told through several great stories packed into this episode.
Topics Covered:
– Growing up in Guatemala
– Entrepreneurship as a kid
– Door-to-Door sales
– Cold Calling
– Cold DMs
– Monetizing your Twitter audience
– and a lot more!
Show Links
Twitter: @OneJKMolina
Instagram: @OneJKMolina
LinkedIn: JKMolina
Raw Episode Transcript
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[paris_vega]: welcome to the first customers podcast today
we’ve got j k molina with us j
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[paris_vega]: k give us a little background man
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[jk]: parents so for everybody was just joining
i mean ter maybe like like three minutes
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[jk]: ago where it’s just
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: chatting so we’re right
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: off the cuff we’re just we’re just
hitting the ground running you know so we’re
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[jk]: just starting out m
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[paris_vega]: that’s right
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[jk]: what’s up what’s up everyone welcome to
first customers podcast a little bit about
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[paris_vega]: ah
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[jk]: well i am i’m jake molina bill
tweet hunter from zero so one point five
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[jk]: million dollars a year in fifteen months
using just twitter first business i ever started
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[jk]: was selling for fuel door the door
was then
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: i became a v a then then
i build this business which is kind of
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[jk]: what people think about when when they
think about me right so
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: tween hunter old twitter and yeah so
whatever you need just answer some questions today
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[jk]: right
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[paris_vega]: yeah so you said you started out
selling perfume is that right
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[jk]: i did a the door
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: you never
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[paris_vega]: tell
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[jk]: watched
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[paris_vega]: us a little
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[jk]: breaking
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[paris_vega]: more
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[jk]: backyounever
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[paris_vega]: about that
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[jk]: watched breaking back
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[paris_vega]: yep
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[jk]: so kind of kind of very similar
you know how wold talks to jessie and
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[jk]: he’s like yeah let’s let’s cook met
right
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: so my my math teacher he he
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[paris_vega]: m
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[jk]: used to sell boot like perfume by
the way and this is this is in
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[jk]: guatemala so i born in racingaamal still
live here and there were like like the
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[jk]: common way to to make money here
maybe in america is the same but you
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[jk]: kind of make you go through high
school then you kind of get an engineering
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[jk]: law or medicine degree and then just
like a thousand or two thousand bucks a
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[jk]: month and that’s kind of so my
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: ma teacher was like super against it
right and i like no i’m selling perfume
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[jk]: because i’m an antroprener so we graduate
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: anders this gap between when we graduate
in when we’re going to start college
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: and i’m just thinking like maybe like
if that you can do it i can
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[jk]: do it right so but i did
when i went to my grandma and asked
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[jk]: me like grandma do you have they
have some plants that smell like something like
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[jk]: oh yeah i got these lemon smelling
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: coins and
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: i got like got this mortar like
crust it and then i put it in
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[jk]: on alcohol and that’s kind of how
you make perfume with glistering so i was
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[jk]: like
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: horrible perfume like terrible perfume like that
i wouldn’t recommend because then if you spray
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[jk]: it it would stain your clothes like
forever it was horrible
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[paris_vega]: wow
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[jk]: but
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: i said you know fucking i’ll just
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[paris_vega]: h
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[jk]: go
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: in and try to go door the
door and i went over the or sold
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[jk]: a few perfumes mostly two old ladies
very hungry market you know that is that
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[jk]: is a market you were
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: going for you want to sell for
few go to
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[paris_vega]: it
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[jk]: men
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[paris_vega]: was
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[jk]: or to women
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[paris_vega]: it was perfume that you personally made
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[jk]: yeah i did yeh so
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[paris_vega]: we
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[jk]: then then then i understood dude like
oh maybe maybe i don’t need to grow
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[jk]: my own plants because then you have
a supply problem you know so then i
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[jk]: was like okay let me let me
try to get like just the essence and
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[jk]: then i remember i got all these
essences and different things and i dropped even
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[jk]: in my room and like
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: for for like two months my entire
like teen ager dude room smelled like two
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[jk]: different like
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: strawberry things remember
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[jk]: that it was horrible
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[paris_vega]: not the vibe you’re going for
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[jk]: yeah not not exactly the macho type
you know what i mean so yeah that’s
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[jk]: how i started but then i you
know i got some money a little bit
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[jk]: and then that allowed me to i
was i was in college starting engineering right
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[jk]: and then real i was like man
i’m not i’m not learning business i really
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[jk]: liked busts right so let me get
some business classes at night so i got
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[jk]: some money from that and then i
borrowed from my family and i enrolled in
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[jk]: business classes um at at that point
i remember there was like all the business
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[jk]: guys were like horrible but there was
this one did that showed marketing but like
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[jk]: directors on marketing might be interesting to
your audience and you tube which is like
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[jk]: don’t bother about branding the bar about
the launch then just get a customer i
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[jk]: like
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[jk]: it and i got like it makes
sense to me and i was like you
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[jk]: know yeah cool and at the time
i like the gay v fan you know
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[jk]: like
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[jk]: just get a mentor no tylofisfanto sorry
tale
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: it’s in he’s all about like labagini
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: get mentor right kind of kind of
stuff i asked him like
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: like can you be my mentor like
can can i work for you right city
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[jk]: i get a job that they didn’t
pay me so it wasn’t a job it
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[jk]: was a venture ship at
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: this this real state thing and i
was kind of learning the robes of real
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[jk]: estate kind of atlantic i just worked
how legion worked what a lead is and
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[jk]: all that stuff but that’s
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[paris_vega]: you
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[jk]: how
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[paris_vega]: say
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[jk]: i started
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[paris_vega]: you were working
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[jk]: really
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[paris_vega]: with ty lopez
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[jk]: no no no no no no i
was
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: a
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[paris_vega]: you were
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[jk]: locus
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[jk]: fan you know i was
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: working for this dude that came to
gave a class at the university alectyeah
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[paris_vega]: oh got you cool
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[jk]: sir
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[paris_vega]: all right so now get us into
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[jk]: oh
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[paris_vega]: all right how did you start to
get the
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[jk]: m
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[paris_vega]: ideas for and start to think about
starting your business that you ended up selling
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[jk]: yeah well we we have to go
a little bit back on that one right
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[jk]: so
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[jk]: to i was then i was the
g v fan and then he
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[paris_vega]: got
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[paris_vega]: ya
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[jk]: about just produce just content just for
this content right you know so it’s content
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[jk]: just make content
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[jk]: and then
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[jk]: i was started for justin content on
twitter because that was kind of that i
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[jk]: don’t the platform i left i started
growing this following but i got to like
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[jk]: maybe ten thousand followers with some and
i realized like there’s people like with one
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[jk]: thousand followers just stacking cash and i’m
not right and i was kind of like
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[jk]: man like what’s the following for if
i’m not making money and then i saw
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[jk]: this but this guy named lawrence and
lawrence said the let social media manager is
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[jk]: paid eighty thousand dollars to tweet now
if you check the let social media they
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[jk]: get like three or four likes per
tweet horrible it’s really bad at a hundred
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: thousand followers this is a multi billion
dollar brandon
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[paris_vega]: right
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[jk]: three lights you know i get more
like right
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: so then then he said like imagine
how much it would pay you if you
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[jk]: didn’t suck on your jaw oh that
makes sense right i could make that happen
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[jk]: now at the time i was a
v a making two and fifty box and
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[jk]: then i thought man eight year i
was making three a year and i thought
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[paris_vega]: wow
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[jk]: that’s a ship in of cash right
like that’s a lot
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[jk]: now in gdmalathat’s that’s like normal syce
what was it called when it’s not full
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[jk]: time part time part as a good
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[paris_vega]: hm
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[jk]: port time salary right so
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[paris_vega]: reek a
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[jk]: i
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[paris_vega]: year
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[jk]: was like three dollars a year so
to
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: fifty bucks that’s that’s kind of standard
here for time
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: but i was there and i thought
yeah but okay right so i i remember
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[jk]: i was making two fifty and there
was this course there was two fifty five
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[jk]: on carpet rating i’m thinking
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[paris_vega]: wow
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[jk]: man i’m i’m going to draw
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: up my monthly salary in this being
holy
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[paris_vega]: right
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[jk]: ship yeah
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: and i’m thinking like okay it let’s
go so i learned a lot in the
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[jk]: copy writing but the biggest thing i
learned what that course included a lot of
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[jk]: tempplates on cold vence and coldarage how
to talk to people right and
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: at the time i was have the
i don’t know thought
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[paris_vega]: yes
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[jk]: school thought of that you need to
create financial projections you need a huge m
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[jk]: p you know you need to run
a huge facebook adds can paid and raise
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[jk]: money from friends family all that thing
but he
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[jk]: there comes this guy that says no
dude you know like just the people talk
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[jk]: to them just the anthem like you
have you have an advantage because like if
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[jk]: i have a hundred thousand million followers
whatever and you have zero followers were til
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[jk]: have the same d buttony we still
have the same playing field you know so
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[jk]: i thought you
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: know ah let me let me be
so i started going hard every day just
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[paris_vega]: i
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[jk]: would you be interested in this would
you be interested in this
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[paris_vega]: and
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[jk]: and
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[paris_vega]: what were you selling at this point
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[jk]: i was telling ghost writing for people
because
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[paris_vega]: ghost
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[jk]: he
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[paris_vega]: ride
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[jk]: said that remember the social media guy
gilet guy it was well social media management
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[jk]: i just go try
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[paris_vega]: right
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[jk]: and i thought like what can i
sell and i as selling like fifteen dollar
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[jk]: logos that i got from five to
be done for five dollars and then iver
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[jk]: charged you a two dollar fee so
it was really seven dollars and i was
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[jk]: making eight dollars profit and i realized
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[paris_vega]: i
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[jk]: this ship is not sustainable
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: like this is not going to work
right
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: but then becomes this guy you can
charge two thous a dollar for a gochatenono
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[jk]: but what other option did i have
so i believe i started behaving people and
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[jk]: my my dea was kind kind of
kind of fish because the first was
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: hey parts so it would be a
google dog with your name on it treats
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[jk]: for pays and then it would be
you could see the right tight words on
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[jk]: the grledok but it was blurred now
everybody got the same message and i didn’t
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[jk]: write i didn’t write anything i just
blurted so i said hey perris i wrote
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[jk]: five to it for you dedicated
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[paris_vega]: yes
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[jk]: to you you’re free to use them
bullshit right i did it i just wanted
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[jk]: to get
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: responses right you know
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[paris_vega]: you’re
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[jk]: you gotta
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[paris_vega]: pre selling
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[jk]: in a way in a way i
was like showing them like hey i wrote
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[jk]: to the streets for you and if
you replied and you wanted to see them
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[jk]: then i got to write before it
was kind of the illusion right in the
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[jk]: beginning i still want to be from
kaliratizon whatever that ever like in the beginning
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[jk]: you need to make white lies about
your ability to execute i said like hey
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[jk]: can you do this and because it’s
the first customer you got to go like
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[jk]: absolutely dude i can do it you
end the zoomcol and
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: then you go like fun how do
i do it
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: you’re like okay
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[paris_vega]: yeah yeah
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[jk]: there’s a good book on this i
think it’s you when i stop talking you’ll
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[jk]: know i’m dead by jared waintront so
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: the thing is he he’s like losing
steam like everybody is like he used to
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[jk]: be famous and then in new york
like
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: in the sixties or something and
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: then he was kind of losing steam
and people were not paying attention to just
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[jk]: like what but in comes this opportunity
and then this big record calls jerry’s like
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[jk]: your jerry what i heard elves eldest
presles in town can you get him the
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[jk]: guy is just like it is my
shop what i can do and he goes
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[jk]: like absolutely i can get you all
this present don’t worry about it so
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: he hangs up
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: he trades in every single favor he
can get elf is pressed and he gets
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[jk]: it right so at the beginning i
did
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[paris_vega]: wow
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[jk]: that i told like white lies about
my ability to execute eventually this one dude
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[jk]: said hey let’s see it and i
remember i was cooking breakfast when he responded
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[jk]: i
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[paris_vega]: yes
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[jk]: dropped everything i go to my lap
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[paris_vega]: i
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[jk]: up i started writing
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: tweet for
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: and that was the one thing i
knew how to do at the time writing
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[jk]: tweet like that was the
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: one skill right and i sent it
to him and was like oh those are
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[jk]: interesting as at something i call got
him gonna call now people told me you
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[jk]: know to charge at least two thousand
dollars for your service
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[paris_vega]: yes
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[jk]: and if you’re listening to this i
i think
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: i can contribute with selling service special
clients coaching services not that much on infopro
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[jk]: and and low ticket stuff like i
don’t tink i have much credibility there so
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[jk]: i wouldn’t listen to myself
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: on that but clients and the other
things i did my fair bit of suffering
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[jk]: so maybe you can learn a few
things anyway i got a call it you’re
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[jk]: supposed to church to k but
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[paris_vega]: yes
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[jk]: i get nervous and i was like
man nobody’s paying me to k that’s two
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[jk]: thirds of a year salary like fun
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[paris_vega]: right
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[jk]: i’m not charging like even if i
said it i know like my boys would
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[jk]: have cracked you know so
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[paris_vega]: right and who
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[jk]: i
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[paris_vega]: were
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[jk]: was like
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[paris_vega]: where were they located you were in
guatemala where were they
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[jk]: they were in california
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[paris_vega]: potential client
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[jk]: like the guy was loaded
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[paris_vega]: okay
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[jk]: like the guy had money
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: you know but i didn’t
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[paris_vega]: right
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[jk]: understand
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: how much money you know but
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: anyway we got i got him on
to call and in my head i’m like
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[jk]: a gong a charge them two thousand
i’m going to
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: charge them seven hundred and fifty dollars
and i’m going to offer
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[paris_vega]: much
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[jk]: payment plan check this out a payment
plan sort of fifty book service
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[paris_vega]: uh
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[jk]: right that’s that’s how bad it was
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: and then i was like let’s go
so i got my call i remember when
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[jk]: it was time to draw up the
price remember i was in the middle of
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[jk]: my presentation that people like a really
cool presentation for him he stops it midway
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[jk]: and it’s like i’m sold like how
much is it he could tell i was
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[jk]: an amateur and then i was going
to say seven fifty and i remember i
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[jk]: choked i was like it’s seven hundred
dollars
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: but we
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: but we have a payment play in
the word you want to put it
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[paris_vega]: oh you were kind of un selling
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[jk]: yeah
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[paris_vega]: yourself right away
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[jk]: oh god i was
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: just like all the
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: all the mistakes ever
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: like i wish i recorded that i
wish i recorded that look but anyway he
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[jk]: said like no it’s it’s fine probably
spend out in bunch that but it’s like
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[jk]: you now it’s not don’t worry about
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[paris_vega]: ye
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[jk]: it and we hang up
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: he didn’t pay he paid like three
days after but i remember i wasn’t a
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[jk]: i wasn’t
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[paris_vega]: eh
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[jk]: horrorid with like that and then i
was telling him about this to like he
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[jk]: ghosted me i was so like discouraged
and then the pay things comes through and
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[jk]: they took a fee it was really
like six seven or something but
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: that was to me the most type
i’ve ever been on any notification of any
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[jk]: money of anything ever because to me
that was that first belief it like made
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[jk]: me believe like man if i did
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[paris_vega]: right
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[jk]: it once i could moo twice right
so all these
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[paris_vega]: yep
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[jk]: things will be like i did a
huge amount of work i absolutely sold my
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[jk]: time i absolutely applied no leverage but
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[paris_vega]: right
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00:14:38,400 –> 00:14:41,885
[jk]: it happened and that one first it
gave me relief and after that life i
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[jk]: kind of knew that i could go
for the rest
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[paris_vega]: yea and so that was your first
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[jk]: yeah
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[paris_vega]: online money that
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[jk]: oh
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[paris_vega]: you’d made at that point
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[jk]: now my first online money was uh
yeah the fiver logos are remembered
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[paris_vega]: okay right right
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[jk]: you
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[paris_vega]: kay
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00:14:58,208 –> 00:14:58,973
[jk]: want to hear the story on that
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00:14:59,768 –> 00:15:00,870
[paris_vega]: sure yes
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00:15:00,780 –> 00:15:05,668
[jk]: so there was this big dude on
twitter chris johnson in like seventy thousand followers
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00:15:05,748 –> 00:15:10,118
[jk]: at a time and chris johnson i
don’t know if anybody knows him he’s like
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00:15:11,060 –> 00:15:17,931
[jk]: for me on twitter guy with the
best branding consistent voiced consistent branding knows exactly
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00:15:17,971 –> 00:15:23,841
[jk]: what he’s taug it’s just outstanding the
quality of branding chris jams on him so
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00:15:24,702 –> 00:15:28,008
[jk]: i was like man i got to
have him as an ally i understood i
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00:15:28,088 –> 00:15:31,273
[jk]: was you know how the forty eight
most of power let get a master like
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[jk]: just use his his his cloud that
like a
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: right
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[paris_vega]: yeah
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[jk]: so i was i remember i got
a picture of him i down loaded it
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00:15:43,024 –> 00:15:46,227
[jk]: and i go to five and i’m
spending this seven
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[paris_vega]: ye
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00:15:46,267 –> 00:15:52,062
[jk]: dollars and i remember paris i negotiated
the two dollar fee i was like is
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00:15:52,102 –> 00:15:52,342
[jk]: there any
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[paris_vega]: oh
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[jk]: way we can not pay the two
dollar fee because
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[paris_vega]: yes oh
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[jk]: god so i remember i remember i
did that and anyway i did the paying
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00:16:02,656 –> 00:16:07,024
[jk]: for that but i got the logo
of somebody that drew it on fiber it
423
00:16:07,064 –> 00:16:10,040
[jk]: was like this cool cartoon looking face
then i
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00:16:10,067 –> 00:16:10,697
[paris_vega]: yeah
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00:16:10,200 –> 00:16:13,666
[jk]: sent it to him i was like
hey i did this for you like i
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00:16:13,726 –> 00:16:15,729
[jk]: didn’t even say i got it from
five or i just said i did it
427
00:16:15,790 –> 00:16:16,030
[jk]: for you
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[paris_vega]: oh
429
00:16:16,531 –> 00:16:21,078
[jk]: like i did it for you and
thank you for everything this is this is
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00:16:21,138 –> 00:16:22,223
[jk]: my twitter if you
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00:16:22,187 –> 00:16:22,907
[paris_vega]: yeah
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00:16:22,263 –> 00:16:23,895
[jk]: want to check it out if not
no worries
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00:16:24,497 –> 00:16:24,722
[paris_vega]: oh
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00:16:24,630 –> 00:16:29,098
[jk]: and guy guy retreats me at seventy
thousand dollars now at the time i see
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00:16:29,158 –> 00:16:29,298
[jk]: that
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00:16:29,897 –> 00:16:30,058
[paris_vega]: wow
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00:16:30,210 –> 00:16:31,071
[jk]: and i
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[paris_vega]: yes
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00:16:31,151 –> 00:16:34,577
[jk]: remember i didn’t was so hard to
like sleep
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[paris_vega]: oh
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00:16:34,998 –> 00:16:35,218
[jk]: because
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00:16:35,867 –> 00:16:36,070
[paris_vega]: yeah
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00:16:36,200 –> 00:16:41,028
[jk]: every time i refreshed like new notification
and new notification i was like holy ship
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00:16:41,108 –> 00:16:41,889
[jk]: this is real
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00:16:41,787 –> 00:16:41,949
[paris_vega]: yeah
446
00:16:42,632 –> 00:16:47,161
[jk]: and then other people say hey do
you do logos and again i was like
447
00:16:47,482 –> 00:16:47,742
[jk]: of course
448
00:16:47,717 –> 00:16:47,980
[paris_vega]: oh
449
00:16:47,782 –> 00:16:50,547
[jk]: i lost of course i’m the i’m
the logo guy of course
450
00:16:50,597 –> 00:16:53,212
[paris_vega]: yeah
451
00:16:50,607 –> 00:16:55,575
[jk]: of course right pull ship and then
they hit me up and i go like
452
00:16:56,076 –> 00:16:57,558
[jk]: yeah this logo is fifteen dollars
453
00:16:58,247 –> 00:16:58,549
[paris_vega]: oh
454
00:16:59,170 –> 00:17:01,997
[jk]: oh that’s fine right and i made
my eight dollar profit on that and i
455
00:17:02,057 –> 00:17:04,483
[jk]: was i can do this again and
i did it again and i
456
00:17:04,517 –> 00:17:04,640
[paris_vega]: yeah
457
00:17:04,544 –> 00:17:05,967
[jk]: did it again and eventually
458
00:17:05,737 –> 00:17:06,158
[paris_vega]: did you raise
459
00:17:06,168 –> 00:17:06,288
[jk]: like
460
00:17:06,218 –> 00:17:07,142
[paris_vega]: prices as you went
461
00:17:08,725 –> 00:17:12,950
[jk]: the most there was like thrifty box
and it felt dirty feel like
462
00:17:14,816 –> 00:17:15,463
[paris_vega]: h oh
463
00:17:16,316 –> 00:17:16,476
[jk]: i was
464
00:17:16,417 –> 00:17:16,518
[paris_vega]: it’s
465
00:17:16,536 –> 00:17:16,637
[jk]: like
466
00:17:16,599 –> 00:17:16,982
[paris_vega]: crazy
467
00:17:16,717 –> 00:17:18,420
[jk]: mad i’m doing
468
00:17:19,607 –> 00:17:20,267
[paris_vega]: oh
469
00:17:19,682 –> 00:17:23,027
[jk]: this is not the lord doesn’t like
this you know what to be
470
00:17:24,859 –> 00:17:25,360
[paris_vega]: because you weren’t
471
00:17:25,221 –> 00:17:25,422
[jk]: but i
472
00:17:25,420 –> 00:17:31,391
[paris_vega]: selling like an agency service you were
saying that i’m literally designing your logo directly
473
00:17:31,470 –> 00:17:32,933
[jk]: yeah yeah yeah so
474
00:17:32,877 –> 00:17:33,587
[paris_vega]: yeah
475
00:17:33,053 –> 00:17:33,815
[jk]: it wasn’t it wasn’t
476
00:17:33,677 –> 00:17:34,997
[paris_vega]: oh
477
00:17:33,835 –> 00:17:34,957
[jk]: complete ly honest you know
478
00:17:34,997 –> 00:17:36,047
[paris_vega]: yeah
479
00:17:35,017 –> 00:17:40,338
[jk]: it wasn’t honest it’s just honest but
yeah that was first dollar online
480
00:17:41,087 –> 00:17:41,390
[paris_vega]: oh
481
00:17:41,933 –> 00:17:42,295
[jk]: was that
482
00:17:42,977 –> 00:17:43,201
[paris_vega]: yeah
483
00:17:43,440 –> 00:17:48,949
[jk]: or either it was just one guy
so i had my this p f on
484
00:17:49,209 –> 00:17:52,976
[jk]: social skills because i wanted to become
a data account right like
485
00:17:53,088 –> 00:17:53,291
[paris_vega]: okay
486
00:17:53,336 –> 00:17:54,618
[jk]: you know like a game pick up
guy
487
00:17:55,318 –> 00:17:55,500
[paris_vega]: right
488
00:17:55,380 –> 00:18:01,011
[jk]: and then i had this this lead
maget on like social skills and on on
489
00:18:01,071 –> 00:18:04,758
[jk]: the platform i had which is gombro
you could either downloadit or free
490
00:18:05,739 –> 00:18:05,759
[paris_vega]: a
491
00:18:05,790 –> 00:18:07,816
[jk]: or people could give you a tip
so
492
00:18:07,787 –> 00:18:07,807
[paris_vega]: m
493
00:18:07,896 –> 00:18:09,240
[jk]: i remember to this
494
00:18:09,159 –> 00:18:09,384
[paris_vega]: yes
495
00:18:09,440 –> 00:18:16,171
[jk]: one i was chilling my this one
gives me gives me five box i drum
496
00:18:16,792 –> 00:18:19,156
[jk]: i’m like o ship it’s real
497
00:18:19,367 –> 00:18:19,567
[paris_vega]: oh
498
00:18:19,917 –> 00:18:22,862
[jk]: like let’s go i go downstairs right
499
00:18:22,796 –> 00:18:22,937
[paris_vega]: yah
500
00:18:22,922 –> 00:18:23,503
[jk]: to the chicken
501
00:18:23,447 –> 00:18:24,197
[paris_vega]: yeah
502
00:18:23,624 –> 00:18:26,488
[jk]: store that’s next to where i live
and i bought a brito
503
00:18:27,137 –> 00:18:27,418
[paris_vega]: oh
504
00:18:29,313 –> 00:18:32,599
[jk]: and that was the best damwordi’ve ever
had in my life as
505
00:18:32,687 –> 00:18:32,888
[paris_vega]: yeah
506
00:18:32,839 –> 00:18:35,564
[jk]: also i remember that now it took
me
507
00:18:35,621 –> 00:18:35,802
[paris_vega]: that’s
508
00:18:35,644 –> 00:18:36,044
[jk]: like six
509
00:18:35,923 –> 00:18:36,124
[paris_vega]: great
510
00:18:36,144 –> 00:18:41,275
[jk]: months to get the money home because
if you if you in latin america it’s
511
00:18:41,355 –> 00:18:44,785
[jk]: easier to make money than it is
to bring the money home so the banks
512
00:18:44,945 –> 00:18:45,767
[jk]: full ship for
513
00:18:46,383 –> 00:18:46,545
[paris_vega]: yeah
514
00:18:46,630 –> 00:18:50,397
[jk]: it was so high like it was
that’s what happened that’s the story of the
515
00:18:50,437 –> 00:18:50,618
[jk]: first
516
00:18:50,517 –> 00:18:50,617
[paris_vega]: it’s
517
00:18:50,658 –> 00:18:50,898
[jk]: dollar
518
00:18:50,697 –> 00:18:50,977
[paris_vega]: awesome
519
00:18:51,540 –> 00:18:52,680
[jk]: yeah
520
00:18:52,359 –> 00:19:00,383
[paris_vega]: awesome all right so what was the
problem that your business you ended up building
521
00:19:01,188 –> 00:19:01,635
[paris_vega]: solved
522
00:19:02,590 –> 00:19:06,757
[jk]: yeah so that’s yeah so were leading
up to that and i didn’t i didn’t
523
00:19:07,217 –> 00:19:07,378
[jk]: right
524
00:19:07,278 –> 00:19:07,459
[paris_vega]: okay
525
00:19:07,498 –> 00:19:10,282
[jk]: so yeah no i forgot to land
i was like
526
00:19:11,028 –> 00:19:11,231
[paris_vega]: oh my
527
00:19:11,244 –> 00:19:11,424
[jk]: again
528
00:19:11,293 –> 00:19:11,456
[paris_vega]: bad
529
00:19:12,045 –> 00:19:12,286
[jk]: no i don’t
530
00:19:12,250 –> 00:19:12,332
[paris_vega]: go
531
00:19:12,306 –> 00:19:12,386
[jk]: know
532
00:19:12,373 –> 00:19:12,536
[paris_vega]: ahead
533
00:19:12,446 –> 00:19:14,449
[jk]: it was me it was my bad
because i remember
534
00:19:14,447 –> 00:19:14,751
[paris_vega]: oh
535
00:19:14,630 –> 00:19:16,932
[jk]: asked about it and i was like
no there’s a little back story but i
536
00:19:17,012 –> 00:19:18,053
[jk]: never got to the real story
537
00:19:18,117 –> 00:19:18,257
[paris_vega]: yeah
538
00:19:18,934 –> 00:19:23,279
[jk]: yeah so the real business is at
coltwethunt so at the time i had like
539
00:19:23,890 –> 00:19:26,893
[jk]: i started growing on twitter i just
just so growing
540
00:19:26,747 –> 00:19:26,767
[paris_vega]: o
541
00:19:26,973 –> 00:19:28,654
[jk]: and then there’s me
542
00:19:28,600 –> 00:19:28,785
[paris_vega]: yeah
543
00:19:29,635 –> 00:19:30,156
[jk]: as i’m growing
544
00:19:30,077 –> 00:19:30,325
[paris_vega]: oh
545
00:19:30,176 –> 00:19:32,899
[jk]: like as a goal rider i was
like kind of a reputation i was gonna
546
00:19:32,939 –> 00:19:39,553
[jk]: go trade and then this guy named
tibo the answer is like do we created
547
00:19:39,593 –> 00:19:41,254
[jk]: this is who it’s called
548
00:19:41,177 –> 00:19:41,441
[paris_vega]: oh
549
00:19:41,375 –> 00:19:42,556
[jk]: tweet hunter so
550
00:19:42,678 –> 00:19:42,758
[paris_vega]: oh
551
00:19:43,156 –> 00:19:48,792
[jk]: what tweet hunter does is it really
the way i write is i copy a
552
00:19:48,893 –> 00:19:52,619
[jk]: lot and i mulate what they say
and then i kind of you say it
553
00:19:52,719 –> 00:19:54,382
[jk]: with my own experiences for example
554
00:19:54,776 –> 00:19:54,797
[paris_vega]: m
555
00:19:54,943 –> 00:19:55,303
[jk]: you guys
556
00:19:55,247 –> 00:19:55,535
[paris_vega]: yes
557
00:19:55,383 –> 00:19:58,188
[jk]: have seen the you probably seen many
558
00:19:58,239 –> 00:19:58,404
[paris_vega]: yeah
559
00:19:58,308 –> 00:20:00,433
[jk]: times tweet
560
00:20:00,287 –> 00:20:01,067
[paris_vega]: yes
561
00:20:00,653 –> 00:20:04,583
[jk]: or the phrase that says i would
rather make fifty thousand dollars a month working
562
00:20:04,643 –> 00:20:06,227
[jk]: for myself than a hundred thousand
563
00:20:06,180 –> 00:20:06,242
[paris_vega]: ah
564
00:20:06,267 –> 00:20:10,037
[jk]: dollars a month working for somebody else
you’ve seen that ship ten thousand
565
00:20:09,847 –> 00:20:10,008
[paris_vega]: yeah
566
00:20:10,077 –> 00:20:10,258
[jk]: times
567
00:20:10,871 –> 00:20:11,011
[paris_vega]: yeah
568
00:20:11,762 –> 00:20:11,822
[jk]: no
569
00:20:13,088 –> 00:20:14,280
[paris_vega]: so oh
570
00:20:14,800 –> 00:20:17,989
[jk]: the way i write is i look
at what’s already hitting like that one like
571
00:20:18,010 –> 00:20:21,058
[jk]: there’s a reason why it’s popular and
i’ll change it to something
572
00:20:20,927 –> 00:20:21,827
[paris_vega]: yeah
573
00:20:21,710 –> 00:20:24,975
[jk]: it’s me like for example i would
rather build
574
00:20:24,877 –> 00:20:25,079
[paris_vega]: yeah
575
00:20:25,316 –> 00:20:26,297
[jk]: one thousand followers
576
00:20:26,117 –> 00:20:26,717
[paris_vega]: okay
577
00:20:26,378 –> 00:20:27,940
[jk]: of or original than ten
578
00:20:27,917 –> 00:20:28,637
[paris_vega]: oh
579
00:20:27,980 –> 00:20:31,506
[jk]: thousand followers who kind of like what
what i have to love
580
00:20:31,567 –> 00:20:31,994
[paris_vega]: gotcha
581
00:20:31,887 –> 00:20:33,149
[jk]: you know what you know what i
mean so
582
00:20:33,189 –> 00:20:33,433
[paris_vega]: okay
583
00:20:33,990 –> 00:20:35,733
[jk]: uh the way tweet
584
00:20:35,747 –> 00:20:35,988
[paris_vega]: yeah
585
00:20:35,773 –> 00:20:36,334
[jk]: hunter worked
586
00:20:36,856 –> 00:20:36,977
[paris_vega]: yeah
587
00:20:36,935 –> 00:20:42,164
[jk]: is it inspired you with other vital
tweet like hey here the vital tweet this
588
00:20:42,244 –> 00:20:42,344
[jk]: is
589
00:20:42,350 –> 00:20:42,572
[paris_vega]: okay
590
00:20:42,424 –> 00:20:42,825
[jk]: kind of the
591
00:20:42,875 –> 00:20:43,016
[paris_vega]: yeah
592
00:20:43,346 –> 00:20:48,314
[jk]: wrapping that works now all that’s left
for you is this is already engaging turn
593
00:20:48,374 –> 00:20:51,479
[jk]: it into a into a good tweet
with your framers right
594
00:20:51,408 –> 00:20:51,811
[paris_vega]: interesting
595
00:20:51,539 –> 00:20:52,701
[jk]: so allow you to steel
596
00:20:52,637 –> 00:20:53,477
[paris_vega]: yeah
597
00:20:52,782 –> 00:20:53,963
[jk]: like an artist if your
598
00:20:53,987 –> 00:20:54,190
[paris_vega]: yes
599
00:20:54,004 –> 00:20:55,025
[jk]: will and
600
00:20:55,103 –> 00:20:55,757
[paris_vega]: hm
601
00:20:55,105 –> 00:21:01,176
[jk]: at the time i was using notion
google doll google drive and an zapirkinffor so
602
00:21:01,276 –> 00:21:03,359
[jk]: like for appstwethunde did
603
00:21:03,287 –> 00:21:03,512
[paris_vega]: yeah
604
00:21:03,419 –> 00:21:08,107
[jk]: it in one so just from the
from the ego i was hooked was like
605
00:21:08,167 –> 00:21:12,018
[jk]: men this is this is awesome so
i remember to
606
00:21:12,153 –> 00:21:12,174
[paris_vega]: a
607
00:21:13,142 –> 00:21:17,350
[jk]: asked me to try for one month
and i’m going to get one like for
608
00:21:17,852 –> 00:21:20,797
[jk]: for one with for free and i
remember i looked at and i’m like
609
00:21:21,437 –> 00:21:22,727
[paris_vega]: yeah
610
00:21:21,441 –> 00:21:23,440
[jk]: i don’t want one month i want
611
00:21:23,417 –> 00:21:23,743
[paris_vega]: oh
612
00:21:23,660 –> 00:21:24,462
[jk]: equity of this thing
613
00:21:24,797 –> 00:21:25,221
[paris_vega]: oh
614
00:21:24,822 –> 00:21:27,647
[jk]: now there was a big jump and
here’s where the first
615
00:21:27,697 –> 00:21:27,842
[paris_vega]: yeah
616
00:21:27,727 –> 00:21:31,113
[jk]: guy comes in remember the seven hundred
other guy the when i choked on the
617
00:21:31,088 –> 00:21:31,128
[paris_vega]: m
618
00:21:31,153 –> 00:21:35,806
[jk]: call so i go up to him
because he’s like still what riches dudes i
619
00:21:35,866 –> 00:21:36,493
[jk]: know and i’m like to
620
00:21:37,277 –> 00:21:37,583
[paris_vega]: yeah
621
00:21:38,411 –> 00:21:42,859
[jk]: i have this opportunity how do you
structure the deal i’ve seen this instructing and
622
00:21:42,899 –> 00:21:46,405
[jk]: i can tell like oh it is
how it works is how structure deal o
623
00:21:46,525 –> 00:21:50,070
[jk]: i go up and ask this is
what i want is what i want and
624
00:21:50,110 –> 00:21:55,875
[jk]: eventually we ended up parting it up
because they had an awesome product and no
625
00:21:56,056 –> 00:22:00,780
[jk]: audience i had a huge audience no
product so
626
00:22:00,738 –> 00:22:01,001
[paris_vega]: okay
627
00:22:01,181 –> 00:22:03,467
[jk]: it was kind of the builder seller
628
00:22:04,766 –> 00:22:04,949
[paris_vega]: right
629
00:22:04,770 –> 00:22:07,125
[jk]: name you know so
630
00:22:07,007 –> 00:22:07,396
[paris_vega]: yes
631
00:22:08,130 –> 00:22:11,218
[jk]: we ponder making a few dollars a
month
632
00:22:11,747 –> 00:22:12,467
[paris_vega]: yeah
633
00:22:11,950 –> 00:22:15,536
[jk]: then we fore just launched to the
audience and because it was kind
634
00:22:15,437 –> 00:22:15,663
[paris_vega]: yes
635
00:22:15,576 –> 00:22:18,962
[jk]: of a good fit of grow and
twitter that’s what i built my audience on
636
00:22:20,144 –> 00:22:21,947
[jk]: we rich like maybe from four
637
00:22:21,857 –> 00:22:21,877
[paris_vega]: m
638
00:22:22,408 –> 00:22:26,877
[jk]: to our team m r in like
two months so it was
639
00:22:26,947 –> 00:22:27,028
[paris_vega]: now
640
00:22:26,957 –> 00:22:27,438
[jk]: it was great
641
00:22:27,489 –> 00:22:30,617
[paris_vega]: did they already have customers or were
they like pre launch when they were letting
642
00:22:30,637 –> 00:22:32,382
[paris_vega]: you test it out or have they
already launched
643
00:22:32,808 –> 00:22:32,908
[jk]: they
644
00:22:32,924 –> 00:22:33,405
[paris_vega]: officially
645
00:22:33,008 –> 00:22:34,411
[jk]: had they had a they had some
646
00:22:34,369 –> 00:22:34,430
[paris_vega]: is
647
00:22:34,491 –> 00:22:35,855
[jk]: customers they were making a few
648
00:22:35,827 –> 00:22:35,991
[paris_vega]: okay
649
00:22:35,935 –> 00:22:37,338
[jk]: hundred dollars a month yeah
650
00:22:38,257 –> 00:22:40,463
[paris_vega]: but you helped them scale from four
k to how much
651
00:22:41,401 –> 00:22:44,647
[jk]: two fourteen came and then kind of
the how
652
00:22:44,666 –> 00:22:44,687
[paris_vega]: m
653
00:22:44,707 –> 00:22:48,473
[jk]: the deal was structured that’s interesting to
your audience it’s i was going
654
00:22:48,289 –> 00:22:48,350
[paris_vega]: aw
655
00:22:48,533 –> 00:22:52,800
[jk]: to unlock equity as we reached new
revenue levels right
656
00:22:52,838 –> 00:22:52,979
[paris_vega]: yeah
657
00:22:52,861 –> 00:22:54,123
[jk]: so this like
658
00:22:54,137 –> 00:22:55,397
[paris_vega]: yeah
659
00:22:54,643 –> 00:22:58,370
[jk]: i was goin t unlock this much
at ten thousand dollars a month this month
660
00:22:58,610 –> 00:22:59,131
[jk]: at fifteen
661
00:22:58,877 –> 00:22:59,807
[paris_vega]: yeah
662
00:22:59,271 –> 00:23:01,595
[jk]: this much at twenty five a kind
of hard one
663
00:23:02,377 –> 00:23:02,498
[paris_vega]: yeah
664
00:23:02,737 –> 00:23:02,817
[jk]: and
665
00:23:03,767 –> 00:23:04,877
[paris_vega]: oh
666
00:23:03,899 –> 00:23:08,111
[jk]: so well parting it up we both
had the incentive to grow the thing and
667
00:23:08,252 –> 00:23:15,348
[jk]: now it makes like hundred forty an
do some one hundred fifty
668
00:23:15,149 –> 00:23:16,337
[paris_vega]: oh
669
00:23:15,409 –> 00:23:16,676
[jk]: thousand or someone something like that
670
00:23:17,267 –> 00:23:17,669
[paris_vega]: it’s awesome
671
00:23:18,460 –> 00:23:18,600
[jk]: yeah
672
00:23:19,819 –> 00:23:19,939
[paris_vega]: wow
673
00:23:20,424 –> 00:23:20,625
[jk]: but yah
674
00:23:20,642 –> 00:23:20,723
[paris_vega]: and
675
00:23:20,665 –> 00:23:20,805
[jk]: that’s
676
00:23:20,783 –> 00:23:20,884
[paris_vega]: so
677
00:23:20,825 –> 00:23:21,908
[jk]: the story of it really
678
00:23:22,779 –> 00:23:23,241
[paris_vega]: yeah so
679
00:23:23,820 –> 00:23:24,025
[jk]: yes
680
00:23:24,498 –> 00:23:29,097
[paris_vega]: were the main way that you grew
it is it just continually putting it out
681
00:23:29,198 –> 00:23:30,324
[paris_vega]: to your audience on twitter
682
00:23:30,480 –> 00:23:35,408
[jk]: yeah yeah i always say that these
guys are these
683
00:23:35,300 –> 00:23:35,626
[paris_vega]: yes
684
00:23:35,448 –> 00:23:38,513
[jk]: guys operate the business i operate the
show business
685
00:23:39,137 –> 00:23:39,418
[paris_vega]: oh
686
00:23:39,334 –> 00:23:44,950
[jk]: so i my job was looking pretty
on camera until in directing people to tea
687
00:23:45,613 –> 00:23:46,778
[jk]: making people click up stuff
688
00:23:47,467 –> 00:23:47,749
[paris_vega]: nice
689
00:23:47,930 –> 00:23:49,574
[jk]: their job as fulfillment
690
00:23:48,987 –> 00:23:49,128
[paris_vega]: yeah
691
00:23:49,734 –> 00:23:55,285
[jk]: retention application talking to people customers or
all everything right
692
00:23:55,497 –> 00:23:55,660
[paris_vega]: yeah
693
00:23:55,626 –> 00:23:58,162
[jk]: my job is making people click thanks
694
00:23:58,158 –> 00:23:58,378
[paris_vega]: so it’s
695
00:23:58,343 –> 00:23:58,464
[jk]: now
696
00:23:58,418 –> 00:24:02,984
[paris_vega]: like they had a almost like they
had an exclusive affiliate deal with you or
697
00:24:03,024 –> 00:24:07,813
[paris_vega]: did they also leverage other affiliates to
help them launch or get into new audiences
698
00:24:08,490 –> 00:24:11,816
[jk]: at this time there weren’t any affiliates
involved not not like
699
00:24:12,527 –> 00:24:13,757
[paris_vega]: oh
700
00:24:13,558 –> 00:24:17,465
[jk]: not relevant revenue was coming from affiliate
may be compared to the other one but
701
00:24:17,946 –> 00:24:21,256
[jk]: most of it was from me just
bringing my audience into it
702
00:24:21,987 –> 00:24:22,109
[paris_vega]: wow
703
00:24:22,150 –> 00:24:27,078
[jk]: now now yeah that was that was
super cool but if we want to go
704
00:24:27,338 –> 00:24:31,625
[jk]: back to tell the podcast the first
customers i wouldn’t recommend it because that’s self
705
00:24:31,686 –> 00:24:36,261
[jk]: work that’s as sulphur is complex so
it’s hard i always
706
00:24:36,100 –> 00:24:36,284
[paris_vega]: what
707
00:24:36,341 –> 00:24:36,902
[jk]: tell people
708
00:24:37,948 –> 00:24:39,077
[paris_vega]: yeah
709
00:24:38,184 –> 00:24:42,150
[jk]: you should start with service businesses because
it allowed you to serve two thousand other
710
00:24:42,211 –> 00:24:45,135
[jk]: stuff three thousand or stuff or in
my case seven one dollar stuff right
711
00:24:45,197 –> 00:24:45,418
[paris_vega]: oh
712
00:24:45,596 –> 00:24:48,325
[jk]: but don’t make my mistake not choke
with confidence
713
00:24:49,087 –> 00:24:49,229
[paris_vega]: yeah
714
00:24:49,250 –> 00:24:55,172
[jk]: it allows you to to sell big
taken items and honestly like
715
00:24:56,447 –> 00:24:56,711
[paris_vega]: oh
716
00:24:56,590 –> 00:25:00,336
[jk]: the thought process somebody has between a
717
00:25:00,527 –> 00:25:01,517
[paris_vega]: yeah
718
00:25:00,616 –> 00:25:04,924
[jk]: two hundred dollar purchase and a two
thousand dollar purchase is kind of the same
719
00:25:05,424 –> 00:25:09,471
[jk]: if you can show them that and
they improve to them they’re going to make
720
00:25:09,571 –> 00:25:13,338
[jk]: more money with you than they pay
you then they’re gonna give you two hundred
721
00:25:13,398 –> 00:25:16,543
[jk]: dollars or twenty thousand dollars or two
thousand dollars right
722
00:25:16,531 –> 00:25:16,732
[paris_vega]: right
723
00:25:17,244 –> 00:25:20,209
[jk]: so i always recommend people start with
service businesses because it’s just
724
00:25:21,028 –> 00:25:21,190
[paris_vega]: yeah
725
00:25:21,070 –> 00:25:27,280
[jk]: very little risk you can start fast
you can whip out atlantic treat you can
726
00:25:27,320 –> 00:25:30,526
[jk]: start setting d m today there you
go you have a business right and
727
00:25:30,690 –> 00:25:30,894
[paris_vega]: right
728
00:25:31,026 –> 00:25:33,853
[jk]: i’d like to start with that because
of how little
729
00:25:33,797 –> 00:25:34,487
[paris_vega]: yeah
730
00:25:35,090 –> 00:25:35,732
[jk]: it costs
731
00:25:35,606 –> 00:25:37,247
[paris_vega]: m oh
732
00:25:36,374 –> 00:25:37,397
[jk]: to fuck up
733
00:25:39,233 –> 00:25:39,534
[paris_vega]: that makes
734
00:25:39,400 –> 00:25:39,620
[jk]: you know
735
00:25:39,574 –> 00:25:39,815
[paris_vega]: sense
736
00:25:39,800 –> 00:25:41,402
[jk]: and no sin not
737
00:25:41,327 –> 00:25:42,287
[paris_vega]: yes
738
00:25:41,462 –> 00:25:46,067
[jk]: as like how hard it is to
fuku because it’s very easy to focus but
739
00:25:46,507 –> 00:25:47,769
[jk]: how little
740
00:25:47,561 –> 00:25:48,809
[paris_vega]: yes oh
741
00:25:49,230 –> 00:25:53,797
[jk]: consequences you will have if you fail
because when i vas fail what
742
00:25:53,837 –> 00:25:54,497
[paris_vega]: oh
743
00:25:53,837 –> 00:25:56,371
[jk]: ave you sent a few d ms
you spent a
744
00:25:56,381 –> 00:25:56,582
[paris_vega]: right
745
00:25:56,451 –> 00:25:59,401
[jk]: couple bucks on the landing page on
the loco like
746
00:26:00,278 –> 00:26:00,440
[paris_vega]: yeah
747
00:26:00,645 –> 00:26:02,771
[jk]: it’s not going to kill you whereas
748
00:26:02,500 –> 00:26:02,844
[paris_vega]: versus
749
00:26:02,851 –> 00:26:02,892
[jk]: if
750
00:26:02,945 –> 00:26:03,350
[paris_vega]: spending
751
00:26:02,952 –> 00:26:04,738
[jk]: you spend if you spend
752
00:26:04,575 –> 00:26:04,737
[paris_vega]: yeah
753
00:26:04,798 –> 00:26:07,747
[jk]: like your entire cash on soft ware
754
00:26:08,747 –> 00:26:08,889
[paris_vega]: yep
755
00:26:08,851 –> 00:26:13,798
[jk]: that is gone i told i told
the people a twehundreof guys before we
756
00:26:13,967 –> 00:26:16,937
[paris_vega]: yeah
757
00:26:14,141 –> 00:26:17,463
[jk]: sell i do not want to know
what
758
00:26:17,627 –> 00:26:17,647
[paris_vega]: m
759
00:26:17,644 –> 00:26:21,851
[jk]: programming language this is written that don’t
tell me i don’t know i don’t know
760
00:26:21,891 –> 00:26:22,832
[jk]: when programming language the
761
00:26:22,787 –> 00:26:22,987
[paris_vega]: oh
762
00:26:22,872 –> 00:26:25,477
[jk]: code and i run it you know
i’m the owner of it i don’t know
763
00:26:25,427 –> 00:26:26,717
[paris_vega]: yeah
764
00:26:25,517 –> 00:26:28,662
[jk]: what’s poblyeverything written bout because i wanted
to make
765
00:26:28,618 –> 00:26:28,761
[paris_vega]: yeah
766
00:26:28,682 –> 00:26:34,712
[jk]: that economy so it’s complex i got
incredibly lucky and i’m incredibly less to have
767
00:26:34,772 –> 00:26:34,812
[jk]: an
768
00:26:34,858 –> 00:26:35,000
[paris_vega]: yeah
769
00:26:35,093 –> 00:26:40,771
[jk]: outstanding teams and product in development like
these guys are world classic now that
770
00:26:40,918 –> 00:26:41,060
[paris_vega]: right
771
00:26:40,951 –> 00:26:42,173
[jk]: was my fifteenth
772
00:26:42,317 –> 00:26:43,247
[paris_vega]: yes
773
00:26:42,333 –> 00:26:47,181
[jk]: business like there’s many things that failed
but the one that the one that the
774
00:26:47,302 –> 00:26:52,050
[jk]: well was i mean the one that
started was the coach running that’s a service
775
00:26:52,392 –> 00:26:53,965
[jk]: and i recommend that’s where people start
776
00:26:56,438 –> 00:26:56,839
[paris_vega]: so how would
777
00:26:56,850 –> 00:26:57,070
[jk]: yeah
778
00:26:56,879 –> 00:27:00,525
[paris_vega]: you get more customers for the ghost
riding business it was just pure cold d
779
00:27:00,845 –> 00:27:00,985
[paris_vega]: ms
780
00:27:02,440 –> 00:27:05,027
[jk]: people call the ansrement like the way
781
00:27:04,918 –> 00:27:05,161
[paris_vega]: awesome
782
00:27:06,991 –> 00:27:13,654
[jk]: the war like to look at this
is you go oh m thank
783
00:27:14,057 –> 00:27:15,377
[paris_vega]: yeah
784
00:27:14,670 –> 00:27:17,875
[jk]: if you really want to customer like
if you want to achieve certain goals you
785
00:27:17,955 –> 00:27:21,781
[jk]: already know what you need to do
like let’s take losing weight for example
786
00:27:21,587 –> 00:27:22,277
[paris_vega]: my
787
00:27:22,122 –> 00:27:25,888
[jk]: like so you want to you want
to drop weight well you can really know
788
00:27:25,928 –> 00:27:28,094
[jk]: what to do just eat less and
run more
789
00:27:28,391 –> 00:27:28,411
[paris_vega]: a
790
00:27:28,615 –> 00:27:29,377
[jk]: like that’s it there you go
791
00:27:30,093 –> 00:27:30,257
[paris_vega]: right
792
00:27:30,240 –> 00:27:31,043
[jk]: solution right
793
00:27:31,327 –> 00:27:31,468
[paris_vega]: yeah
794
00:27:31,606 –> 00:27:35,884
[jk]: you you want to i don’t know
you want to get a girl friend dress
795
00:27:35,944 –> 00:27:40,713
[jk]: well get in shake or talk to
more women there you go you want to
796
00:27:40,753 –> 00:27:43,357
[jk]: make money craft an offer and talk
to
797
00:27:43,307 –> 00:27:43,447
[paris_vega]: oh
798
00:27:43,377 –> 00:27:48,691
[jk]: more people about it so i feel
like people don’t have a strategy problem the
799
00:27:48,731 –> 00:27:49,112
[jk]: strategy is
800
00:27:49,067 –> 00:27:49,817
[paris_vega]: oh
801
00:27:49,152 –> 00:27:54,115
[jk]: actually pretty straight forward piers it’s just
don’t offer pick a good market and talk
802
00:27:54,175 –> 00:27:57,883
[jk]: to people every day and eventually you’re
going to land one right people don’t have
803
00:27:57,924 –> 00:28:01,471
[jk]: a strategy probus they have an execution
problem they just don’t
804
00:28:01,369 –> 00:28:01,389
[paris_vega]: m
805
00:28:01,611 –> 00:28:02,713
[jk]: stick to it to
806
00:28:02,786 –> 00:28:02,807
[paris_vega]: m
807
00:28:02,794 –> 00:28:03,054
[jk]: it so
808
00:28:03,279 –> 00:28:03,359
[paris_vega]: you
809
00:28:03,535 –> 00:28:07,663
[jk]: the way i like to look at
service usiness client acquisition it’s you
810
00:28:07,757 –> 00:28:08,021
[paris_vega]: yes
811
00:28:07,783 –> 00:28:11,429
[jk]: go fast in the paddle but slow
in the wheel
812
00:28:11,477 –> 00:28:11,741
[paris_vega]: oh
813
00:28:12,840 –> 00:28:16,666
[jk]: do you go hard on what you
know you need to do the outrush twenty
814
00:28:16,706 –> 00:28:18,690
[jk]: messages a day fifty messages a hundred
815
00:28:18,692 –> 00:28:18,772
[paris_vega]: an
816
00:28:18,730 –> 00:28:20,653
[jk]: messages a day right you go
817
00:28:20,678 –> 00:28:20,779
[paris_vega]: ah
818
00:28:20,853 –> 00:28:25,281
[jk]: hard on crafting the offer and you
go hard finding a good mare and posting
819
00:28:25,341 –> 00:28:29,580
[jk]: content consistently but on the wheel it
don’t change it because you
820
00:28:29,588 –> 00:28:30,197
[paris_vega]: yeah
821
00:28:29,680 –> 00:28:33,727
[jk]: know that if you stick to not
eating and working out you’re goin to get
822
00:28:33,827 –> 00:28:37,373
[jk]: fit and you know that if you
stick to grafting it off or picking on
823
00:28:37,433 –> 00:28:41,849
[jk]: market and actually doing legend you’re going
to make money what happens his weekend patient
824
00:28:42,550 –> 00:28:43,732
[jk]: it happens that we get desperate
825
00:28:44,066 –> 00:28:44,353
[paris_vega]: m yes
826
00:28:44,294 –> 00:28:45,978
[jk]: we think that we need to speed
827
00:28:45,407 –> 00:28:46,517
[paris_vega]: oh
828
00:28:46,138 –> 00:28:47,421
[jk]: something up and in reality we
829
00:28:47,350 –> 00:28:47,451
[paris_vega]: ah
830
00:28:47,461 –> 00:28:52,396
[jk]: should actually just control our impulses not
change the plan the only
831
00:28:52,367 –> 00:28:52,490
[paris_vega]: yeah
832
00:28:52,437 –> 00:28:54,907
[jk]: way you can suck the plant up
is by changing it
833
00:28:57,707 –> 00:28:59,235
[paris_vega]: yeah so stick to the process that
you
834
00:28:59,190 –> 00:28:59,491
[jk]: yeah
835
00:28:59,296 –> 00:28:59,818
[paris_vega]: know works
836
00:29:00,776 –> 00:29:02,383
[jk]: yeah man fast in the fastening
837
00:29:02,117 –> 00:29:02,337
[paris_vega]: yeah
838
00:29:02,464 –> 00:29:03,207
[jk]: petoslow on the weel
839
00:29:04,844 –> 00:29:11,064
[paris_vega]: i like that so it sounds like
there’s a a potential service business or an
840
00:29:11,144 –> 00:29:15,020
[paris_vega]: info product or something like that that
you’re kind of tiptoing around or maybe you
841
00:29:15,060 –> 00:29:19,455
[paris_vega]: already have something like that for people
trying to get a service business started
842
00:29:19,470 –> 00:29:19,733
[jk]: my
843
00:29:20,320 –> 00:29:20,422
[paris_vega]: and
844
00:29:21,180 –> 00:29:22,320
[jk]: oh
845
00:29:22,147 –> 00:29:25,732
[paris_vega]: laying out the steps or the philosophy
that you have there do you have something
846
00:29:25,772 –> 00:29:27,916
[paris_vega]: like that where you describe like
847
00:29:28,080 –> 00:29:28,301
[jk]: oh
848
00:29:28,727 –> 00:29:32,489
[paris_vega]: how you’ve done this and so kind
of turning that into a temple sell to
849
00:29:32,570 –> 00:29:32,792
[paris_vega]: others
850
00:29:33,901 –> 00:29:39,536
[jk]: i used to i don’t take people
any more because i don’t target starters any
851
00:29:39,576 –> 00:29:44,942
[jk]: more and with the respect like let’s
just i was broke to like i made
852
00:29:45,062 –> 00:29:49,145
[jk]: zero money like i negotiated a two
dollar fee like come
853
00:29:49,136 –> 00:29:49,157
[paris_vega]: m
854
00:29:49,186 –> 00:29:51,588
[jk]: on i’ll be in there i know
right so i
855
00:29:51,619 –> 00:29:51,824
[paris_vega]: right
856
00:29:51,668 –> 00:29:52,568
[jk]: just realized that
857
00:29:53,057 –> 00:29:53,179
[paris_vega]: yeah
858
00:29:53,960 –> 00:29:59,285
[jk]: the way you think when you make
zero when you have made zero
859
00:29:59,117 –> 00:29:59,777
[paris_vega]: yeah
860
00:29:59,385 –> 00:30:03,592
[jk]: dollars on line and the way you
think when you made one dollar on line
861
00:30:03,773 –> 00:30:08,760
[jk]: is black and white it’s not i
it’s completely diffentfrom zero daullars to one it’s
862
00:30:08,987 –> 00:30:09,333
[paris_vega]: oh
863
00:30:09,181 –> 00:30:10,643
[jk]: not even close so
864
00:30:11,087 –> 00:30:11,616
[paris_vega]: oh
865
00:30:11,725 –> 00:30:12,366
[jk]: a lot of those
866
00:30:12,287 –> 00:30:13,187
[paris_vega]: oh
867
00:30:12,486 –> 00:30:16,172
[jk]: lessons are very i don’t know they’re
very spiritual and very emotional and very hard
868
00:30:16,252 –> 00:30:20,419
[jk]: to learn we have doing so i
used to talk with people who didn’t make
869
00:30:20,479 –> 00:30:23,544
[jk]: any money on line no i don’t
i only talk with people who have at
870
00:30:23,625 –> 00:30:26,650
[jk]: least two thousand followers they already have
an audience
871
00:30:26,750 –> 00:30:26,934
[paris_vega]: yes
872
00:30:27,030 –> 00:30:31,838
[jk]: and they encountered the same problem i
encounter which is i have this audience how
873
00:30:32,339 –> 00:30:35,535
[jk]: old lights comments and retweets and story
shirts or whatever
874
00:30:36,587 –> 00:30:37,247
[paris_vega]: yeah
875
00:30:37,240 –> 00:30:38,662
[jk]: i’m not making any money what
876
00:30:38,629 –> 00:30:38,773
[paris_vega]: yes
877
00:30:38,722 –> 00:30:44,291
[jk]: do i do so now what i
do exclusively only that it’s i show people
878
00:30:44,472 –> 00:30:48,498
[jk]: with more than two thousand followers how
to monetizether existing audience and i take him
879
00:30:48,538 –> 00:30:50,361
[jk]: to thoroly moth a cold
880
00:30:50,327 –> 00:30:50,571
[paris_vega]: okay
881
00:30:50,402 –> 00:30:53,316
[jk]: tweet and clients that’s what i do
ye no beginners
882
00:30:53,997 –> 00:30:57,664
[paris_vega]: okay and so tweet hunter that project
883
00:30:57,690 –> 00:30:58,740
[jk]: yeah
884
00:30:57,724 –> 00:31:01,074
[paris_vega]: ended up selling so you cashed out
of that project all together
885
00:31:02,483 –> 00:31:03,789
[jk]: yeah so that
886
00:31:03,787 –> 00:31:03,908
[paris_vega]: cool
887
00:31:03,889 –> 00:31:08,794
[jk]: ended up selling it again if you
could ask
888
00:31:08,700 –> 00:31:08,865
[paris_vega]: yeah
889
00:31:08,874 –> 00:31:13,894
[jk]: me if you ask me about m
n a equity v c acquisition s have
890
00:31:14,275 –> 00:31:15,077
[jk]: shied like
891
00:31:15,227 –> 00:31:15,508
[paris_vega]: oh
892
00:31:15,478 –> 00:31:20,287
[jk]: i was blessed i was blessed with
a great team and they just told me
893
00:31:20,348 –> 00:31:23,976
[jk]: like hey we’ll be doing our do
diligence this is
894
00:31:24,017 –> 00:31:24,707
[paris_vega]: oh
895
00:31:24,036 –> 00:31:24,377
[jk]: a price
896
00:31:25,037 –> 00:31:25,178
[paris_vega]: oh
897
00:31:25,550 –> 00:31:30,276
[jk]: in and honestly it was cheaper than
than i was expecting like i
898
00:31:30,327 –> 00:31:30,450
[paris_vega]: yeah
899
00:31:30,356 –> 00:31:32,279
[jk]: wasn’t i thought i was going to
sell it
900
00:31:33,227 –> 00:31:33,491
[paris_vega]: oh
901
00:31:33,310 –> 00:31:35,285
[jk]: i thought i was going to tell
one more honestly
902
00:31:35,627 –> 00:31:35,909
[paris_vega]: oh
903
00:31:37,001 –> 00:31:39,706
[jk]: i understand that game is complex and
sad
904
00:31:39,467 –> 00:31:40,307
[paris_vega]: yeah
905
00:31:39,766 –> 00:31:40,648
[jk]: as complex and
906
00:31:41,647 –> 00:31:41,788
[paris_vega]: yeah
907
00:31:42,742 –> 00:31:49,033
[jk]: bye there are a few things if
you ask my tea they’re going to tell
908
00:31:49,073 –> 00:31:53,081
[jk]: you a few things maybe my heart
wasn’t in it i was kind of got
909
00:31:53,141 –> 00:31:54,804
[jk]: lazy at the end and i
910
00:31:54,828 –> 00:31:54,968
[paris_vega]: yeah
911
00:31:54,904 –> 00:31:58,831
[jk]: thought yeah it’s not the biggest thing
but i don’t know where i read it
912
00:31:58,971 –> 00:32:01,355
[jk]: but it’s like better to exitealyinto
913
00:32:01,721 –> 00:32:02,297
[paris_vega]: yeah
914
00:32:02,237 –> 00:32:03,999
[jk]: that you never act you know so
i’m like you know
915
00:32:04,357 –> 00:32:04,498
[paris_vega]: yeah
916
00:32:04,980 –> 00:32:07,523
[jk]: we have this offer on the table
i can
917
00:32:07,517 –> 00:32:07,805
[paris_vega]: yes
918
00:32:07,623 –> 00:32:11,186
[jk]: take the money and i appreciate it
and focus let’s go
919
00:32:11,189 –> 00:32:11,412
[paris_vega]: yes
920
00:32:11,306 –> 00:32:14,249
[jk]: so which is the money and now
i just go hard and tweet some clients
921
00:32:15,287 –> 00:32:18,304
[paris_vega]: awesome so how many years were you
involved with tweet hunter
922
00:32:19,361 –> 00:32:19,441
[jk]: one
923
00:32:20,347 –> 00:32:21,112
[paris_vega]: and when did it sell
924
00:32:23,160 –> 00:32:28,765
[jk]: august in september actually less than one
so it was like eleven months eleven months
925
00:32:28,785 –> 00:32:29,267
[jk]: or to moths
926
00:32:29,937 –> 00:32:31,640
[paris_vega]: wow all right
927
00:32:31,760 –> 00:32:31,903
[jk]: yeah
928
00:32:31,821 –> 00:32:33,665
[paris_vega]: and so that was twenty twenty two
its old
929
00:32:34,711 –> 00:32:36,559
[jk]: it’s sold twenty twenty two yeah so
930
00:32:36,907 –> 00:32:37,047
[paris_vega]: wow
931
00:32:38,044 –> 00:32:38,787
[jk]: yeah that’s what happened
932
00:32:39,209 –> 00:32:44,053
[paris_vega]: perfect timing it seems like to me
because especially with a tools that are coming
933
00:32:44,113 –> 00:32:47,336
[paris_vega]: online now chat g p t and
other stuff it sounds like
934
00:32:47,640 –> 00:32:47,660
[jk]: m
935
00:32:48,887 –> 00:32:52,831
[paris_vega]: might start creeping into that kind of
a market where if you’re trying to figure
936
00:32:52,872 –> 00:32:56,095
[paris_vega]: out hey what’s another way to say
this thing or what’s some popular things in
937
00:32:56,135 –> 00:33:01,312
[paris_vega]: this area could start to eat up
some of the market share from tools like
938
00:33:01,352 –> 00:33:01,533
[paris_vega]: that
939
00:33:02,600 –> 00:33:04,866
[jk]: that could definitely happen but i don’t
i don’t
940
00:33:04,860 –> 00:33:05,002
[paris_vega]: yeah
941
00:33:04,906 –> 00:33:10,760
[jk]: know enough about that but i will
say what prevented what happened so we got
942
00:33:10,841 –> 00:33:17,161
[jk]: to maybe like a million to one
point two million a year there was a
943
00:33:17,261 –> 00:33:19,024
[jk]: point in which just
944
00:33:19,037 –> 00:33:19,667
[paris_vega]: yeah
945
00:33:19,205 –> 00:33:23,292
[jk]: acquiring more customers wasn’t going to cut
it the game became
946
00:33:23,246 –> 00:33:23,267
[paris_vega]: m
947
00:33:23,452 –> 00:33:28,511
[jk]: making every customer more valuable it was
retention and upsetting so
948
00:33:28,637 –> 00:33:29,357
[paris_vega]: yeah
949
00:33:28,712 –> 00:33:32,681
[jk]: two things happened there because i’m not
the co well i’m not i wasn’t the
950
00:33:32,627 –> 00:33:32,868
[paris_vega]: yeah
951
00:33:32,701 –> 00:33:35,468
[jk]: c i was the cmobutum
952
00:33:33,974 –> 00:33:36,308
[paris_vega]: right oh
953
00:33:36,581 –> 00:33:37,604
[jk]: two things happened there one
954
00:33:38,507 –> 00:33:38,711
[paris_vega]: ye
955
00:33:39,030 –> 00:33:40,997
[jk]: i kind of got lazy in the
beginning my heart wasn’t it
956
00:33:41,927 –> 00:33:42,527
[paris_vega]: yeah
957
00:33:42,052 –> 00:33:47,946
[jk]: and two i didn’t have the skill
at at the time to grow the company
958
00:33:48,046 –> 00:33:52,663
[jk]: to what it could be i generally
was incompetent at what needed to be done
959
00:33:52,824 –> 00:33:53,567
[jk]: at the next step
960
00:33:54,197 –> 00:33:55,157
[paris_vega]: yeah
961
00:33:54,830 –> 00:33:57,934
[jk]: so i got lazy didn’t learn the
next step so i just couldn’t do it
962
00:33:58,014 –> 00:34:04,383
[jk]: i just couldn’t take the next step
you know and obviously that that
963
00:34:04,469 –> 00:34:04,653
[paris_vega]: yeah
964
00:34:04,503 –> 00:34:08,113
[jk]: revealed itself in the dash board and
how much money we made and
965
00:34:08,167 –> 00:34:08,311
[paris_vega]: yeah
966
00:34:08,975 –> 00:34:11,212
[jk]: i don’t know for me was
967
00:34:11,726 –> 00:34:12,008
[paris_vega]: m oh
968
00:34:12,480 –> 00:34:12,960
[jk]: in o were
969
00:34:13,787 –> 00:34:14,049
[paris_vega]: yeah
970
00:34:14,803 –> 00:34:15,004
[jk]: i’m not
971
00:34:15,038 –> 00:34:15,200
[paris_vega]: yeah
972
00:34:15,044 –> 00:34:20,092
[jk]: talking about wet hunter i’m talking about
malines involvement in tweet hunter it was kind
973
00:34:20,172 –> 00:34:25,523
[jk]: of going downhill so before i got
rewards i feel like not only
974
00:34:25,501 –> 00:34:25,582
[paris_vega]: ah
975
00:34:25,604 –> 00:34:28,105
[jk]: the a i think which has a
point put
976
00:34:28,697 –> 00:34:28,919
[paris_vega]: yes
977
00:34:29,500 –> 00:34:34,340
[jk]: i didn’t see it going better with
me and parent so
978
00:34:34,698 –> 00:34:34,820
[paris_vega]: yeah
979
00:34:35,204 –> 00:34:37,513
[jk]: to me it was a good idea
to just it was a good time to
980
00:34:37,574 –> 00:34:39,681
[jk]: just quit because i honestly
981
00:34:40,358 –> 00:34:40,520
[paris_vega]: yes
982
00:34:40,542 –> 00:34:44,331
[jk]: crntskillset on y crime level i don’t
think i could have scaled it much i
983
00:34:44,431 –> 00:34:47,878
[jk]: think we actually imputed somebody else’s eyes
or envolement
984
00:34:49,238 –> 00:34:51,783
[paris_vega]: that’s good to have that kind of
self awareness and i’ve seen
985
00:34:51,810 –> 00:34:52,920
[jk]: yeah
986
00:34:51,823 –> 00:34:55,250
[paris_vega]: that myself in different roles where you
realize okay the best
987
00:34:55,151 –> 00:34:55,295
[jk]: yeah
988
00:34:55,310 –> 00:34:56,993
[paris_vega]: thing for the project is probably for
989
00:34:57,030 –> 00:34:57,354
[jk]: oh
990
00:34:57,033 –> 00:35:02,788
[paris_vega]: me to fire myself find a better
replacement who can take it from here whether
991
00:35:02,848 –> 00:35:04,494
[paris_vega]: it’s from interest or skill level
992
00:35:05,450 –> 00:35:05,690
[jk]: a hundred
993
00:35:05,658 –> 00:35:05,699
[paris_vega]: so
994
00:35:05,730 –> 00:35:05,991
[jk]: percent
995
00:35:05,759 –> 00:35:05,900
[paris_vega]: that’s
996
00:35:06,532 –> 00:35:10,799
[jk]: the other day i was i was
running my own podcast with this guy called
997
00:35:10,939 –> 00:35:13,623
[jk]: me so ne worked with this fund
998
00:35:13,487 –> 00:35:13,836
[paris_vega]: yeah
999
00:35:13,944 –> 00:35:19,693
[jk]: of he’s invested like two hundred million
dollars i guess crazy crazy crazy money right
1000
00:35:20,635 –> 00:35:23,560
[jk]: and then you got a podcast and
like like
1001
00:35:23,747 –> 00:35:24,036
[paris_vega]: oh
1002
00:35:23,760 –> 00:35:25,683
[jk]: you had to learn twitter for me
like
1003
00:35:25,637 –> 00:35:25,818
[paris_vega]: yeah
1004
00:35:25,724 –> 00:35:28,087
[jk]: broth you should teach you should teach
me
1005
00:35:28,127 –> 00:35:28,268
[paris_vega]: yeah
1006
00:35:28,288 –> 00:35:30,591
[jk]: right anyway we started
1007
00:35:30,378 –> 00:35:30,583
[paris_vega]: yes
1008
00:35:30,631 –> 00:35:33,914
[jk]: talking and i asked okay so you
met
1009
00:35:34,607 –> 00:35:34,888
[paris_vega]: oh
1010
00:35:34,694 –> 00:35:41,193
[jk]: billionaires you made amazing founders amazing entrepreners
what is one trait what do you feel
1011
00:35:41,274 –> 00:35:42,901
[jk]: like stands
1012
00:35:42,617 –> 00:35:43,367
[paris_vega]: yeah
1013
00:35:42,981 –> 00:35:49,369
[jk]: above like makes the best the best
it goes like here you can see like
1014
00:35:50,212 –> 00:35:56,495
[jk]: the engines turned in his head like
it’s it’s self awareness it’s knowing
1015
00:35:56,297 –> 00:35:56,317
[paris_vega]: m
1016
00:35:56,716 –> 00:35:59,841
[jk]: when you don’t have the skill in
so he
1017
00:35:59,899 –> 00:36:00,042
[paris_vega]: yeah
1018
00:35:59,921 –> 00:36:04,509
[jk]: told the story about this very competent
s of very good at what he did
1019
00:36:05,010 –> 00:36:11,036
[jk]: it’s a million dollar company and with
nevis investor so he calls he calls
1020
00:36:10,929 –> 00:36:10,949
[paris_vega]: a
1021
00:36:11,076 –> 00:36:11,918
[jk]: him to side and he goes
1022
00:36:12,677 –> 00:36:13,039
[paris_vega]: yeah
1023
00:36:13,550 –> 00:36:17,501
[jk]: and to tell you something we got
a problem i mean it’s worrying like men
1024
00:36:17,541 –> 00:36:18,864
[jk]: aren’t going t ask for more money
1025
00:36:19,638 –> 00:36:19,799
[paris_vega]: yeah
1026
00:36:19,805 –> 00:36:22,510
[jk]: we’ve all ridden but so much time
were you’re quitting or you gotta whatever it’s
1027
00:36:22,550 –> 00:36:26,837
[jk]: like no we need to see you
and mind you the guy is good at
1028
00:36:26,857 –> 00:36:32,333
[jk]: what he does we need to see
it goes to you are the co what
1029
00:36:32,267 –> 00:36:32,507
[paris_vega]: oh
1030
00:36:32,373 –> 00:36:35,904
[jk]: do you mean and he’s like no
like i understand
1031
00:36:36,977 –> 00:36:37,261
[paris_vega]: oh
1032
00:36:37,260 –> 00:36:42,345
[jk]: but on my current skill said i’m
best product we need somebody who is more
1033
00:36:42,465 –> 00:36:47,751
[jk]: competent than me at c because i’m
not giving the company what it needs he
1034
00:36:47,832 –> 00:36:51,192
[jk]: mentioned that change the way he sees
1035
00:36:51,047 –> 00:36:51,413
[paris_vega]: yeah
1036
00:36:51,353 –> 00:36:57,142
[jk]: on first because like it takes a
lot of ego calmness to be able to
1037
00:36:57,202 –> 00:36:59,747
[jk]: say hey i’m not to see oh
your self
1038
00:36:59,640 –> 00:36:59,821
[paris_vega]: right
1039
00:37:00,388 –> 00:37:00,688
[jk]: you know
1040
00:37:00,710 –> 00:37:00,851
[paris_vega]: yep
1041
00:37:01,630 –> 00:37:03,112
[jk]: heard but he said
1042
00:37:02,928 –> 00:37:03,072
[paris_vega]: yep
1043
00:37:03,453 –> 00:37:05,677
[jk]: that’s what stood up to me i
think i thought he was going to say
1044
00:37:05,757 –> 00:37:09,643
[jk]: competitiveness i thought he was going to
say like this anger but he said self
1045
00:37:09,904 –> 00:37:11,366
[jk]: awareness which to
1046
00:37:11,380 –> 00:37:11,421
[paris_vega]: m
1047
00:37:11,406 –> 00:37:13,449
[jk]: me was one of the most interesting
things we talked of
1048
00:37:15,308 –> 00:37:15,648
[paris_vega]: yeah because
1049
00:37:15,540 –> 00:37:15,826
[jk]: oh
1050
00:37:15,688 –> 00:37:18,573
[paris_vega]: if your goal is to grow a
business then it has nothing to do with
1051
00:37:18,613 –> 00:37:18,713
[paris_vega]: your
1052
00:37:18,750 –> 00:37:19,055
[jk]: oh
1053
00:37:18,773 –> 00:37:20,195
[paris_vega]: personal involvement necessarily
1054
00:37:19,920 –> 00:37:20,760
[jk]: oh
1055
00:37:20,255 –> 00:37:23,952
[paris_vega]: because the best version of that business
might be you sitting on the side line
1056
00:37:24,232 –> 00:37:26,738
[paris_vega]: you know putting all the best players
in place let
1057
00:37:26,690 –> 00:37:26,831
[jk]: yeah
1058
00:37:26,758 –> 00:37:26,978
[paris_vega]: them do
1059
00:37:27,012 –> 00:37:27,032
[jk]: i
1060
00:37:27,019 –> 00:37:27,139
[paris_vega]: their
1061
00:37:27,093 –> 00:37:27,234
[jk]: mean
1062
00:37:27,199 –> 00:37:27,420
[paris_vega]: job
1063
00:37:28,561 –> 00:37:30,190
[jk]: it depends on it depends
1064
00:37:30,107 –> 00:37:30,350
[paris_vega]: my
1065
00:37:30,210 –> 00:37:31,336
[jk]: on what you want really like
1066
00:37:31,707 –> 00:37:31,829
[paris_vega]: yeah
1067
00:37:32,780 –> 00:37:38,306
[jk]: i realized with teedunter and feet and
clients i’m not exactly the best co you
1068
00:37:38,366 –> 00:37:42,040
[jk]: know like i’m not i’m
1069
00:37:41,996 –> 00:37:42,017
[paris_vega]: m
1070
00:37:42,100 –> 00:37:44,384
[jk]: good at show business there’s other people
good at business
1071
00:37:44,117 –> 00:37:44,802
[paris_vega]: yeah
1072
00:37:44,864 –> 00:37:44,965
[jk]: so
1073
00:37:45,427 –> 00:37:45,851
[paris_vega]: yeah yeah
1074
00:37:46,748 –> 00:37:53,158
[jk]: i worked really well with operators with
analytic guys which is my new partner am
1075
00:37:53,319 –> 00:37:56,664
[jk]: rine he’s about operations systems
1076
00:37:56,429 –> 00:37:56,631
[paris_vega]: yeah
1077
00:37:57,385 –> 00:38:02,374
[jk]: and we just worked great together because
i just he just tells me like jake
1078
00:38:02,474 –> 00:38:06,300
[jk]: i just need you to book calls
just book calls
1079
00:38:06,137 –> 00:38:06,499
[paris_vega]: my
1080
00:38:06,641 –> 00:38:11,910
[jk]: and show up to you know coort
i’m like got it i got it i
1081
00:38:11,950 –> 00:38:15,175
[jk]: have no idea how the things run
like he does it right but like it
1082
00:38:15,249 –> 00:38:15,393
[paris_vega]: yeah
1083
00:38:15,275 –> 00:38:18,707
[jk]: works well because i i can corner
within in to
1084
00:38:19,737 –> 00:38:20,360
[paris_vega]: you focus on your
1085
00:38:20,320 –> 00:38:20,582
[jk]: uh
1086
00:38:20,400 –> 00:38:20,701
[paris_vega]: strength
1087
00:38:21,768 –> 00:38:27,273
[jk]: yeah i will say though if you
want to get your first customer and like
1088
00:38:27,293 –> 00:38:29,756
[jk]: i don’t think you need a co
founder i don’t think you need a partner
1089
00:38:30,096 –> 00:38:30,477
[jk]: i just think
1090
00:38:30,421 –> 00:38:30,503
[paris_vega]: ah
1091
00:38:30,517 –> 00:38:32,479
[jk]: you just need to talk to more
fucking people
1092
00:38:33,439 –> 00:38:33,459
[paris_vega]: m
1093
00:38:34,102 –> 00:38:37,634
[jk]: you just talk to more people get
get a yes and then figure
1094
00:38:37,400 –> 00:38:37,421
[paris_vega]: i
1095
00:38:37,714 –> 00:38:41,749
[jk]: out how to get the yes to
get a s and then figure out how
1096
00:38:41,789 –> 00:38:43,236
[jk]: to deliver on what you promise
1097
00:38:44,517 –> 00:38:47,005
[paris_vega]: nice and so the current business that
1098
00:38:46,920 –> 00:38:47,021
[jk]: ah
1099
00:38:47,045 –> 00:38:49,032
[paris_vega]: you’re focused on is it tweet and
1100
00:38:49,020 –> 00:38:49,162
[jk]: ye
1101
00:38:49,072 –> 00:38:49,895
[paris_vega]: the clients you said
1102
00:38:51,293 –> 00:38:51,594
[jk]: correct
1103
00:38:51,477 –> 00:38:51,598
[paris_vega]: wet
1104
00:38:51,795 –> 00:38:52,056
[jk]: cosin
1105
00:38:51,799 –> 00:38:52,040
[paris_vega]: client
1106
00:38:52,136 –> 00:38:52,437
[jk]: clients
1107
00:38:53,557 –> 00:38:53,657
[paris_vega]: all
1108
00:38:53,560 –> 00:38:53,702
[jk]: yeah
1109
00:38:53,718 –> 00:38:57,464
[paris_vega]: right so what’s the kind of the
pitch or the problem that that company solves
1110
00:38:57,564 –> 00:38:58,386
[paris_vega]: for your customers
1111
00:38:59,140 –> 00:39:02,866
[jk]: oh it’s it’s the one where we
have three thousand at least two thousand followers
1112
00:39:02,926 –> 00:39:03,908
[jk]: we’re going to take you the thirty
1113
00:39:03,678 –> 00:39:03,802
[paris_vega]: right
1114
00:39:03,988 –> 00:39:06,854
[jk]: thousand dollars a month to be where
you need to be a coach though so
1115
00:39:07,234 –> 00:39:08,837
[jk]: if you’re a coach with at least
tousndolors
1116
00:39:08,447 –> 00:39:08,629
[paris_vega]: okay
1117
00:39:08,897 –> 00:39:09,759
[jk]: we take theretically
1118
00:39:10,928 –> 00:39:13,534
[paris_vega]: a coach so explain what do you
mean by coach
1119
00:39:14,481 –> 00:39:14,802
[jk]: coaches
1120
00:39:16,037 –> 00:39:18,701
[paris_vega]: oh a
1121
00:39:18,692 –> 00:39:18,933
[jk]: i mean
1122
00:39:19,913 –> 00:39:20,117
[paris_vega]: yeah
1123
00:39:19,914 –> 00:39:21,116
[jk]: i mean you the coaching you know
1124
00:39:21,137 –> 00:39:21,857
[paris_vega]: yes
1125
00:39:21,176 –> 00:39:24,402
[jk]: you charge at least two thousand dollars
for people as could be it could be
1126
00:39:24,462 –> 00:39:27,827
[jk]: fit this it could be i don’t
know we got we got somebody that’s a
1127
00:39:27,928 –> 00:39:29,631
[jk]: herbalist shows people
1128
00:39:29,447 –> 00:39:29,669
[paris_vega]: okay
1129
00:39:29,691 –> 00:39:31,095
[jk]: how to make more money with birds
1130
00:39:31,487 –> 00:39:32,327
[paris_vega]: oh
1131
00:39:32,870 –> 00:39:32,910
[jk]: no
1132
00:39:33,028 –> 00:39:33,149
[paris_vega]: wow
1133
00:39:35,374 –> 00:39:35,735
[jk]: i don’t know
1134
00:39:35,818 –> 00:39:36,080
[paris_vega]: okay
1135
00:39:36,596 –> 00:39:38,119
[jk]: i’ve held a few quit born
1136
00:39:38,357 –> 00:39:39,377
[paris_vega]: yeah
1137
00:39:38,399 –> 00:39:40,623
[jk]: coaches like it’s very broad you know
1138
00:39:40,990 –> 00:39:41,131
[paris_vega]: wow
1139
00:39:41,184 –> 00:39:41,364
[jk]: yeah
1140
00:39:41,857 –> 00:39:42,059
[paris_vega]: okay
1141
00:39:42,446 –> 00:39:47,764
[jk]: is this erbalistill we got an call
and i remember the thing that stood out
1142
00:39:48,085 –> 00:39:50,990
[jk]: to me the most from him was
when he mentioned
1143
00:39:50,816 –> 00:39:50,837
[paris_vega]: m
1144
00:39:51,611 –> 00:39:53,694
[jk]: i can look at people’s tongues
1145
00:39:53,567 –> 00:39:53,830
[paris_vega]: oh
1146
00:39:54,295 –> 00:39:58,152
[jk]: and figure out what’s wrong with them
i like dude no fucking way
1147
00:39:58,307 –> 00:39:58,608
[paris_vega]: yeah
1148
00:39:59,250 –> 00:39:59,411
[jk]: oh
1149
00:39:59,973 –> 00:40:01,881
[paris_vega]: that’s his coaching business is the tongue
1150
00:40:01,700 –> 00:40:01,860
[jk]: yeah
1151
00:40:01,922 –> 00:40:02,484
[paris_vega]: analysis
1152
00:40:02,601 –> 00:40:05,366
[jk]: now that’s how you get you into
the door right that’s kind
1153
00:40:05,368 –> 00:40:05,489
[paris_vega]: kay
1154
00:40:05,426 –> 00:40:06,267
[jk]: of that’s kind
1155
00:40:06,192 –> 00:40:06,353
[paris_vega]: got
1156
00:40:06,308 –> 00:40:07,489
[jk]: of lead you know and
1157
00:40:07,427 –> 00:40:10,812
[paris_vega]: oh
1158
00:40:07,550 –> 00:40:13,479
[jk]: then like his top is super like
high level like i was impressed at how
1159
00:40:13,600 –> 00:40:13,680
[jk]: but
1160
00:40:13,837 –> 00:40:14,018
[paris_vega]: that’s
1161
00:40:14,000 –> 00:40:14,101
[jk]: now
1162
00:40:14,118 –> 00:40:14,481
[paris_vega]: crazy
1163
00:40:14,161 –> 00:40:17,827
[jk]: about magnesium like for me i take
magnesium at night turns
1164
00:40:17,878 –> 00:40:18,081
[paris_vega]: right
1165
00:40:17,947 –> 00:40:21,212
[jk]: out there’s like seven or eight different
types of magnesians and they all
1166
00:40:21,095 –> 00:40:21,116
[paris_vega]: i
1167
00:40:21,272 –> 00:40:25,419
[jk]: do different ship and one like kills
you didn’t right anyway
1168
00:40:25,367 –> 00:40:25,691
[paris_vega]: oh
1169
00:40:26,442 –> 00:40:31,702
[jk]: where the call is like i get
to a like it sounds like this astrology
1170
00:40:31,802 –> 00:40:33,844
[jk]: you know the strology girls you’re such
a
1171
00:40:33,828 –> 00:40:33,908
[paris_vega]: oh
1172
00:40:33,924 –> 00:40:34,344
[jk]: tourist
1173
00:40:33,949 –> 00:40:34,110
[paris_vega]: yeah
1174
00:40:34,545 –> 00:40:35,666
[jk]: right and they’ll tell you everything
1175
00:40:35,527 –> 00:40:35,669
[paris_vega]: yeah
1176
00:40:35,706 –> 00:40:35,846
[jk]: about
1177
00:40:35,830 –> 00:40:35,991
[paris_vega]: yeah
1178
00:40:35,946 –> 00:40:39,480
[jk]: being a tourist and the high school
ship come on and i’m like
1179
00:40:39,587 –> 00:40:39,809
[paris_vega]: did you
1180
00:40:39,841 –> 00:40:39,901
[jk]: so
1181
00:40:39,849 –> 00:40:39,950
[paris_vega]: have
1182
00:40:39,981 –> 00:40:40,001
[jk]: i
1183
00:40:39,990 –> 00:40:40,071
[paris_vega]: to
1184
00:40:40,042 –> 00:40:40,763
[jk]: showed yeah
1185
00:40:40,787 –> 00:40:41,048
[paris_vega]: oh
1186
00:40:41,064 –> 00:40:41,845
[jk]: i showed my tongue
1187
00:40:44,007 –> 00:40:45,630
[paris_vega]: hover over a zoom
1188
00:40:45,535 –> 00:40:45,716
[jk]: yeah
1189
00:40:45,710 –> 00:40:47,372
[paris_vega]: call or something you took out your
tongue
1190
00:40:47,860 –> 00:40:51,145
[jk]: yeah so that is that is that
is the story of co i showed another
1191
00:40:51,226 –> 00:40:52,608
[jk]: man my tongue during a zoon
1192
00:40:52,667 –> 00:40:52,827
[paris_vega]: oh
1193
00:40:52,688 –> 00:40:56,435
[jk]: call everybody first customers podcast this is
what you’re here for right
1194
00:40:56,657 –> 00:40:57,160
[paris_vega]: yeah
1195
00:40:56,996 –> 00:40:57,837
[jk]: so i
1196
00:40:57,905 –> 00:40:58,167
[paris_vega]: that’s
1197
00:40:57,937 –> 00:40:58,258
[jk]: showed it
1198
00:40:58,288 –> 00:40:58,469
[paris_vega]: that’s
1199
00:40:58,298 –> 00:40:58,358
[jk]: to
1200
00:40:58,509 –> 00:40:58,993
[paris_vega]: the secret
1201
00:40:59,450 –> 00:41:00,151
[jk]: yeah bro that’s it
1202
00:41:00,117 –> 00:41:00,338
[paris_vega]: you got
1203
00:41:00,331 –> 00:41:00,391
[jk]: you
1204
00:41:00,398 –> 00:41:00,439
[paris_vega]: to
1205
00:41:00,451 –> 00:41:00,551
[jk]: want
1206
00:41:00,479 –> 00:41:00,620
[paris_vega]: show
1207
00:41:00,591 –> 00:41:00,772
[jk]: to make
1208
00:41:00,680 –> 00:41:00,781
[paris_vega]: your
1209
00:41:00,832 –> 00:41:01,032
[jk]: money
1210
00:41:00,841 –> 00:41:01,163
[paris_vega]: tongue
1211
00:41:01,112 –> 00:41:01,192
[jk]: that
1212
00:41:01,264 –> 00:41:01,887
[paris_vega]: to potential
1213
00:41:01,553 –> 00:41:02,034
[jk]: show your talk
1214
00:41:01,928 –> 00:41:02,270
[paris_vega]: client
1215
00:41:02,134 –> 00:41:04,378
[jk]: to other men on zomcallthat’s
1216
00:41:04,817 –> 00:41:04,977
[paris_vega]: oh
1217
00:41:05,840 –> 00:41:08,825
[jk]: so i did it the level
1218
00:41:09,416 –> 00:41:09,981
[paris_vega]: h oh
1219
00:41:09,827 –> 00:41:12,980
[jk]: of precise s of which he
1220
00:41:13,016 –> 00:41:13,037
[paris_vega]: m
1221
00:41:13,100 –> 00:41:17,828
[jk]: told me what was wrong with me
was outstanding the guy looked at my tongue
1222
00:41:17,657 –> 00:41:18,061
[paris_vega]: oh
1223
00:41:18,429 –> 00:41:19,571
[jk]: but he was looking at my
1224
00:41:19,616 –> 00:41:19,637
[paris_vega]: h
1225
00:41:19,852 –> 00:41:25,025
[jk]: soul that it was crazy crazy but
anyway you
1226
00:41:25,029 –> 00:41:25,109
[paris_vega]: so
1227
00:41:25,105 –> 00:41:25,227
[jk]: set
1228
00:41:25,169 –> 00:41:25,290
[paris_vega]: was
1229
00:41:25,267 –> 00:41:25,328
[jk]: up
1230
00:41:25,350 –> 00:41:25,410
[paris_vega]: it
1231
00:41:25,409 –> 00:41:25,429
[jk]: a
1232
00:41:25,430 –> 00:41:25,570
[paris_vega]: just
1233
00:41:25,510 –> 00:41:25,732
[jk]: witch
1234
00:41:25,650 –> 00:41:28,494
[paris_vega]: physical or is it also like character
1235
00:41:28,310 –> 00:41:28,991
[jk]: no it was emotional
1236
00:41:28,715 –> 00:41:29,175
[paris_vega]: personal
1237
00:41:29,092 –> 00:41:30,955
[jk]: it was emotional spiritual a
1238
00:41:30,979 –> 00:41:31,326
[paris_vega]: really
1239
00:41:31,036 –> 00:41:32,619
[jk]: lot of this yeah i was like
1240
00:41:32,647 –> 00:41:32,827
[paris_vega]: based
1241
00:41:32,799 –> 00:41:32,980
[jk]: well
1242
00:41:32,888 –> 00:41:33,370
[paris_vega]: on the time
1243
00:41:33,761 –> 00:41:37,028
[jk]: yeah because because he separates it like
the tip i think it’s
1244
00:41:37,299 –> 00:41:37,543
[paris_vega]: okay
1245
00:41:38,070 –> 00:41:44,704
[jk]: tip he separated he classifies by color
middle of the donkey classifies by texture weird
1246
00:41:45,145 –> 00:41:48,731
[jk]: weird but he got it right he
got it right like i got
1247
00:41:48,677 –> 00:41:48,898
[paris_vega]: that’s
1248
00:41:48,771 –> 00:41:48,972
[jk]: to give
1249
00:41:48,998 –> 00:41:49,399
[paris_vega]: crazy
1250
00:41:49,012 –> 00:41:52,297
[jk]: it to the guy actually i don’t
think i don’t think he is a problem
1251
00:41:52,417 –> 00:41:55,342
[jk]: me shouting out his name is thorpe
on twitter
1252
00:41:55,449 –> 00:41:55,671
[paris_vega]: okay
1253
00:41:56,324 –> 00:41:56,404
[jk]: so
1254
00:41:57,557 –> 00:41:57,924
[paris_vega]: there you go
1255
00:41:58,027 –> 00:41:58,768
[jk]: yeah go a show
1256
00:41:58,697 –> 00:41:59,002
[paris_vega]: oh
1257
00:41:58,828 –> 00:42:00,056
[jk]: in your time uh
1258
00:41:59,927 –> 00:42:00,267
[paris_vega]: oh
1259
00:42:00,889 –> 00:42:03,090
[jk]: uh yeah
1260
00:42:03,090 –> 00:42:07,734
[paris_vega]: it’s always always something new everybody i
talked to there’s always new tactics and that’s
1261
00:42:07,615 –> 00:42:07,815
[jk]: yeah
1262
00:42:07,934 –> 00:42:08,234
[paris_vega]: definitely
1263
00:42:07,995 –> 00:42:08,216
[jk]: well
1264
00:42:08,275 –> 00:42:08,635
[paris_vega]: the first
1265
00:42:09,337 –> 00:42:13,004
[jk]: so when you mentioned coaching it we
got fitness coaches we got
1266
00:42:12,957 –> 00:42:13,119
[paris_vega]: yeah
1267
00:42:14,726 –> 00:42:15,107
[jk]: i don’t want to
1268
00:42:15,080 –> 00:42:15,677
[paris_vega]: okay
1269
00:42:15,127 –> 00:42:16,971
[jk]: say tongue master put you know
1270
00:42:17,018 –> 00:42:19,457
[paris_vega]: right
1271
00:42:17,192 –> 00:42:18,940
[jk]: to massive got
1272
00:42:19,857 –> 00:42:23,674
[paris_vega]: so that’s your target market is just
all kinds of coaches with at least that
1273
00:42:24,282 –> 00:42:24,562
[jk]: with at
1274
00:42:24,587 –> 00:42:24,708
[paris_vega]: ye
1275
00:42:24,622 –> 00:42:25,925
[jk]: least that follow because
1276
00:42:26,717 –> 00:42:27,047
[paris_vega]: oh
1277
00:42:26,846 –> 00:42:32,115
[jk]: my whole thing is like a cash
that’s like my brand lean cash because
1278
00:42:32,009 –> 00:42:32,232
[paris_vega]: okay
1279
00:42:32,335 –> 00:42:33,657
[jk]: that’s what happened to me i got
1280
00:42:33,588 –> 00:42:33,753
[paris_vega]: yes
1281
00:42:33,738 –> 00:42:34,339
[jk]: to seventy
1282
00:42:34,371 –> 00:42:34,474
[paris_vega]: oh
1283
00:42:34,439 –> 00:42:41,494
[jk]: thousand where’s then i got in a
call with this company these accounts have nine
1284
00:42:41,554 –> 00:42:49,075
[jk]: hundred followers and at the time with
seventy thousand i was making third and then
1285
00:42:49,135 –> 00:42:49,637
[jk]: i got em on a
1286
00:42:49,637 –> 00:42:49,941
[paris_vega]: oh
1287
00:42:49,697 –> 00:42:52,768
[jk]: call with the accountant and i asked
the guy has felt worsted
1288
00:42:53,357 –> 00:42:54,947
[paris_vega]: yeah
1289
00:42:53,731 –> 00:42:56,400
[jk]: okay so how much how much is
the business making go
1290
00:42:56,630 –> 00:42:56,794
[paris_vega]: yeah
1291
00:42:57,140 –> 00:43:01,645
[jk]: we make thirty c last month with
one seventh
1292
00:43:01,307 –> 00:43:02,027
[paris_vega]: yeah
1293
00:43:02,686 –> 00:43:03,206
[jk]: of my
1294
00:43:03,210 –> 00:43:03,351
[paris_vega]: yeah
1295
00:43:03,546 –> 00:43:05,188
[jk]: audience and i’m thinking this
1296
00:43:05,010 –> 00:43:05,194
[paris_vega]: right
1297
00:43:05,288 –> 00:43:06,109
[jk]: is full
1298
00:43:06,080 –> 00:43:06,286
[paris_vega]: yeah
1299
00:43:06,209 –> 00:43:07,282
[jk]: ship we
1300
00:43:07,457 –> 00:43:07,557
[paris_vega]: was
1301
00:43:07,505 –> 00:43:08,070
[jk]: cannot
1302
00:43:07,597 –> 00:43:08,360
[paris_vega]: he just a regular
1303
00:43:08,212 –> 00:43:08,333
[jk]: be
1304
00:43:08,721 –> 00:43:11,650
[paris_vega]: like accounting service or was he specifically
like an accountant
1305
00:43:11,580 –> 00:43:12,001
[jk]: yeah
1306
00:43:11,971 –> 00:43:13,154
[paris_vega]: promoting himself on twitter
1307
00:43:13,705 –> 00:43:17,774
[jk]: it’s a it’s an account for what
i trust on t it’s a very specific
1308
00:43:17,814 –> 00:43:18,677
[jk]: kind of way in which you can
1309
00:43:18,707 –> 00:43:18,910
[paris_vega]: okay
1310
00:43:19,118 –> 00:43:19,258
[jk]: like
1311
00:43:19,907 –> 00:43:19,927
[paris_vega]: o
1312
00:43:20,320 –> 00:43:22,724
[jk]: essentially allows you to pay less taxes
but almost
1313
00:43:22,789 –> 00:43:22,993
[paris_vega]: okay
1314
00:43:22,824 –> 00:43:26,390
[jk]: no taxes for some people crazy he
does crazy things so like
1315
00:43:26,577 –> 00:43:26,719
[paris_vega]: yeah
1316
00:43:26,810 –> 00:43:31,759
[jk]: like kamala harris and the rockefellers and
like true they all set up something
1317
00:43:31,787 –> 00:43:32,075
[paris_vega]: yeah
1318
00:43:31,799 –> 00:43:33,062
[jk]: called truck now these
1319
00:43:33,139 –> 00:43:33,361
[paris_vega]: right
1320
00:43:33,183 –> 00:43:34,086
[jk]: trusts they
1321
00:43:34,097 –> 00:43:34,401
[paris_vega]: yes
1322
00:43:34,166 –> 00:43:35,631
[jk]: have these like
1323
00:43:35,798 –> 00:43:37,067
[paris_vega]: yeah
1324
00:43:36,175 –> 00:43:39,021
[jk]: the tax code is intentionally
1325
00:43:38,387 –> 00:43:38,552
[paris_vega]: ye
1326
00:43:39,181 –> 00:43:41,445
[jk]: made so that there are like some
1327
00:43:41,468 –> 00:43:41,650
[paris_vega]: yeah
1328
00:43:41,485 –> 00:43:44,750
[jk]: are vague enough so that you could
kind of play right and there’s a certain
1329
00:43:44,831 –> 00:43:49,599
[jk]: combination of trust like there’s like seven
variables there’s one certain combinations that allows you
1330
00:43:49,619 –> 00:43:54,146
[jk]: to like paid no taxes that you
are the only owner like all the money
1331
00:43:54,226 –> 00:43:55,027
[jk]: is comply
1332
00:43:54,577 –> 00:43:54,738
[paris_vega]: right
1333
00:43:55,127 –> 00:44:00,937
[jk]: safe like if you’re basis and you
i know basil not go journey up your
1334
00:44:01,177 –> 00:44:02,199
[jk]: journey depend you marry a
1335
00:44:02,207 –> 00:44:02,330
[paris_vega]: yeah
1336
00:44:02,299 –> 00:44:08,149
[jk]: psycho it she can’t take anything from
you journey that talk to my account it’s
1337
00:44:08,289 –> 00:44:08,730
[jk]: crazy
1338
00:44:08,447 –> 00:44:09,047
[paris_vega]: oh
1339
00:44:08,990 –> 00:44:11,137
[jk]: crazy bit right anyway you that opera
1340
00:44:10,971 –> 00:44:10,992
[paris_vega]: m
1341
00:44:12,170 –> 00:44:12,390
[jk]: making
1342
00:44:12,368 –> 00:44:12,570
[paris_vega]: yeah
1343
00:44:12,470 –> 00:44:17,519
[jk]: third came with nine follers and i’m
taking a how are you making the same
1344
00:44:17,839 –> 00:44:18,440
[jk]: money i’m making
1345
00:44:18,467 –> 00:44:21,047
[paris_vega]: yeah
1346
00:44:18,560 –> 00:44:23,849
[jk]: so ever since then i realize yeah
like sent cash right so it’s kind of
1347
00:44:24,190 –> 00:44:29,042
[jk]: son you learn when you build a
big following and you realize that no you’re
1348
00:44:29,102 –> 00:44:30,124
[jk]: not making any money
1349
00:44:29,966 –> 00:44:29,987
[paris_vega]: m
1350
00:44:30,646 –> 00:44:31,267
[jk]: so i
1351
00:44:31,271 –> 00:44:31,434
[paris_vega]: yeah
1352
00:44:31,387 –> 00:44:35,677
[jk]: teach people who already learned following isn’t
on pay the bills you can’t pay bills
1353
00:44:35,757 –> 00:44:36,118
[jk]: it likes
1354
00:44:36,487 –> 00:44:38,808
[paris_vega]: right okay
1355
00:44:39,363 –> 00:44:39,528
[jk]: what
1356
00:44:39,369 –> 00:44:41,174
[paris_vega]: so how do you
1357
00:44:41,160 –> 00:44:41,781
[jk]: oh
1358
00:44:42,717 –> 00:44:45,748
[paris_vega]: end up solving this problem for people
can you get into a little bit of
1359
00:44:46,391 –> 00:44:50,661
[paris_vega]: like what’s the the common issue see
like why don’t these people know how to
1360
00:44:50,741 –> 00:44:54,787
[paris_vega]: grow their accounts themselves or what are
they missing that
1361
00:44:54,832 –> 00:44:55,076
[jk]: yes
1362
00:44:55,088 –> 00:44:56,654
[paris_vega]: you helpful in the gaps and like
how
1363
00:44:56,610 –> 00:44:56,710
[jk]: ye
1364
00:44:56,754 –> 00:44:59,925
[paris_vega]: common is that same kind of pattern
you see with these types of accounts
1365
00:45:00,402 –> 00:45:03,974
[jk]: oh it was everywhere because like if
i asked somebody like okay
1366
00:45:04,097 –> 00:45:04,361
[paris_vega]: yeah
1367
00:45:04,496 –> 00:45:09,018
[jk]: you have a instagram you have twitter
how do you make money from it night
1368
00:45:09,058 –> 00:45:11,565
[jk]: an it percent people will tell you
well you built an audience and then me
1369
00:45:11,746 –> 00:45:12,327
[jk]: launching from
1370
00:45:13,558 –> 00:45:13,761
[paris_vega]: right
1371
00:45:13,913 –> 00:45:14,235
[jk]: and then
1372
00:45:14,987 –> 00:45:16,307
[paris_vega]: yeah
1373
00:45:15,240 –> 00:45:19,867
[jk]: what happens is you end up getting
trapped in the engagement port so instead of
1374
00:45:20,007 –> 00:45:24,315
[jk]: talking about things that you are good
at her you start talking about things that
1375
00:45:24,475 –> 00:45:29,507
[jk]: elan mosk is good at that jeff
pass is good so let if you
1376
00:45:30,377 –> 00:45:31,637
[paris_vega]: yeah
1377
00:45:30,660 –> 00:45:33,004
[jk]: it goes to correlation like people correlate
1378
00:45:32,633 –> 00:45:32,653
[paris_vega]: i
1379
00:45:33,284 –> 00:45:36,469
[jk]: the wrong variables for example if you
eat right
1380
00:45:36,779 –> 00:45:36,819
[paris_vega]: m
1381
00:45:36,850 –> 00:45:37,731
[jk]: and then they work
1382
00:45:37,706 –> 00:45:37,727
[paris_vega]: m
1383
00:45:37,832 –> 00:45:39,474
[jk]: out you will get in shape
1384
00:45:39,377 –> 00:45:39,622
[paris_vega]: oh
1385
00:45:39,554 –> 00:45:42,880
[jk]: that is a correlation that is correct
where ask
1386
00:45:43,757 –> 00:45:44,042
[paris_vega]: oh
1387
00:45:43,783 –> 00:45:48,392
[jk]: if you build a big follow and
you will make money that correlation is false
1388
00:45:48,912 –> 00:45:53,416
[jk]: because why the people buy people don’t
buy because they see you people buy
1389
00:45:53,237 –> 00:45:53,482
[paris_vega]: oh
1390
00:45:53,536 –> 00:45:56,579
[jk]: because they will recognize you as an
expert at watching
1391
00:45:57,955 –> 00:45:57,975
[paris_vega]: m
1392
00:45:58,111 –> 00:45:58,972
[jk]: so a lot of we
1393
00:45:58,886 –> 00:45:59,428
[paris_vega]: m that’s
1394
00:45:59,333 –> 00:45:59,493
[jk]: get
1395
00:45:59,468 –> 00:45:59,650
[paris_vega]: good
1396
00:45:59,633 –> 00:46:02,318
[jk]: caught up in the engagement trap we
get like
1397
00:46:03,017 –> 00:46:03,797
[paris_vega]: oh
1398
00:46:03,419 –> 00:46:06,825
[jk]: and just another twee surely my income
is going to change if i just have
1399
00:46:06,865 –> 00:46:08,007
[jk]: another vital bullshit
1400
00:46:07,877 –> 00:46:08,537
[paris_vega]: oh
1401
00:46:08,227 –> 00:46:11,118
[jk]: what book but i teach
1402
00:46:10,969 –> 00:46:10,989
[paris_vega]: i
1403
00:46:11,199 –> 00:46:12,365
[jk]: people as you don’t build
1404
00:46:13,007 –> 00:46:14,177
[paris_vega]: oh
1405
00:46:13,370 –> 00:46:17,657
[jk]: an audience and then launch an offer
you craft and offer around what your best
1406
00:46:18,017 –> 00:46:22,605
[jk]: and you build the audience around that
and you are up front from the beginning
1407
00:46:22,645 –> 00:46:26,932
[jk]: hey i have something to sell and
let me explain you by my own frame
1408
00:46:27,012 –> 00:46:31,217
[jk]: wich my own thing why i am
good at what to do and why no
1409
00:46:31,317 –> 00:46:31,758
[jk]: matter how
1410
00:46:31,619 –> 00:46:31,720
[paris_vega]: oh
1411
00:46:31,938 –> 00:46:37,522
[jk]: small c or river or pond
1412
00:46:37,307 –> 00:46:38,357
[paris_vega]: yeah
1413
00:46:37,662 –> 00:46:40,846
[jk]: or even a puddle no matter how
small this is on
1414
00:46:40,918 –> 00:46:41,060
[paris_vega]: yeah
1415
00:46:40,926 –> 00:46:44,442
[jk]: the best of solving that same problem
so that’s
1416
00:46:44,438 –> 00:46:44,541
[paris_vega]: it’s
1417
00:46:44,462 –> 00:46:44,542
[jk]: what
1418
00:46:44,582 –> 00:46:44,725
[paris_vega]: good
1419
00:46:44,602 –> 00:46:47,207
[jk]: i teach people you don’t grow the
audience and then modetize
1420
00:46:47,597 –> 00:46:48,227
[paris_vega]: oh
1421
00:46:47,748 –> 00:46:52,097
[jk]: you graft the offer and you solve
the audience around that kind we do it
1422
00:46:52,197 –> 00:46:52,698
[jk]: back there
1423
00:46:52,957 –> 00:47:00,529
[paris_vega]: awesome so it’s like hyper focused personal
branding business building around your strength or your
1424
00:47:00,609 –> 00:47:04,115
[paris_vega]: service um so that’s what seems to
be the model that works
1425
00:47:04,500 –> 00:47:04,704
[jk]: oh
1426
00:47:04,616 –> 00:47:08,122
[paris_vega]: what examples may be of people that
try i guess you’ve touched on this already
1427
00:47:08,162 –> 00:47:11,247
[paris_vega]: little bit but things that don’t work
where people are in this space
1428
00:47:11,260 –> 00:47:12,330
[jk]: yeah
1429
00:47:11,267 –> 00:47:15,354
[paris_vega]: and they’re trying to do this kind
of thing maybe are there any common mistakes
1430
00:47:15,775 –> 00:47:16,496
[paris_vega]: that you haven’t mentioned
1431
00:47:17,070 –> 00:47:20,774
[jk]: yeah the biggest one i feel is
not answering
1432
00:47:20,786 –> 00:47:20,807
[paris_vega]: m
1433
00:47:22,216 –> 00:47:22,696
[jk]: the filth
1434
00:47:22,457 –> 00:47:22,704
[paris_vega]: yes
1435
00:47:22,857 –> 00:47:27,482
[jk]: or the filter through which people try
to say this right
1436
00:47:27,437 –> 00:47:27,758
[paris_vega]: oh
1437
00:47:27,542 –> 00:47:30,872
[jk]: so there’s this unanswered question if everyone
said which is
1438
00:47:30,797 –> 00:47:31,427
[paris_vega]: oh
1439
00:47:31,434 –> 00:47:31,614
[jk]: why
1440
00:47:31,517 –> 00:47:31,806
[paris_vega]: yes
1441
00:47:31,755 –> 00:47:32,898
[jk]: should i listen to you
1442
00:47:33,772 –> 00:47:33,812
[paris_vega]: m
1443
00:47:33,941 –> 00:47:34,710
[jk]: everybody has his
1444
00:47:34,646 –> 00:47:34,667
[paris_vega]: m
1445
00:47:34,771 –> 00:47:35,750
[jk]: invecad so
1446
00:47:36,180 –> 00:47:36,300
[paris_vega]: yeah
1447
00:47:36,573 –> 00:47:41,995
[jk]: imagine somebody goes to your profile and
there there’s two types
1448
00:47:41,961 –> 00:47:42,467
[paris_vega]: what
1449
00:47:42,055 –> 00:47:42,375
[jk]: of costs
1450
00:47:42,647 –> 00:47:42,868
[paris_vega]: oh
1451
00:47:42,896 –> 00:47:47,925
[jk]: right or they see two types of
tones they’re both copy writers one copy writer
1452
00:47:48,445 –> 00:47:54,983
[jk]: talks about ten legendary copy writing picks
from gary halbert now that might get a
1453
00:47:55,044 –> 00:47:58,130
[jk]: few legs the other copy writer talked
about these
1454
00:47:58,097 –> 00:47:59,987
[paris_vega]: yeah
1455
00:47:58,351 –> 00:48:04,730
[jk]: ten case studies made my clients this
much money who are you hiring the guy
1456
00:48:04,790 –> 00:48:04,870
[jk]: who
1457
00:48:04,813 –> 00:48:04,976
[paris_vega]: yeah
1458
00:48:04,950 –> 00:48:08,818
[jk]: talks about other people’s successes or the
guy that talks about what he did
1459
00:48:09,987 –> 00:48:10,169
[paris_vega]: right
1460
00:48:10,171 –> 00:48:16,181
[jk]: so for me the biggest mistake people
make is they don’t prove their confidence they
1461
00:48:16,301 –> 00:48:16,521
[jk]: don’t
1462
00:48:16,302 –> 00:48:16,322
[paris_vega]: m
1463
00:48:16,601 –> 00:48:20,047
[jk]: prove what they’re good at they don’t
show that no matter what the problem is
1464
00:48:20,107 –> 00:48:26,519
[jk]: or how small it is at least
of that small problem they’re the category so
1465
00:48:26,619 –> 00:48:28,843
[jk]: give an example for me i’m
1466
00:48:28,937 –> 00:48:29,996
[paris_vega]: yeah oh
1467
00:48:29,584 –> 00:48:31,608
[jk]: i generally believe i’m the best at
1468
00:48:32,207 –> 00:48:32,488
[paris_vega]: oh
1469
00:48:32,950 –> 00:48:39,746
[jk]: were monetization of three thousand followers if
you are a coach that’s also wealth service
1470
00:48:40,067 –> 00:48:43,082
[jk]: or fitniservice like those
1471
00:48:43,157 –> 00:48:43,405
[paris_vega]: yeah
1472
00:48:43,242 –> 00:48:45,145
[jk]: are five levels deep
1473
00:48:45,017 –> 00:48:45,359
[paris_vega]: oh
1474
00:48:45,646 –> 00:48:47,770
[jk]: right those that is a small
1475
00:48:47,687 –> 00:48:48,407
[paris_vega]: oh
1476
00:48:47,950 –> 00:48:49,372
[jk]: as positif you can far to
1477
00:48:49,449 –> 00:48:49,654
[paris_vega]: right
1478
00:48:49,472 –> 00:48:53,479
[jk]: add in a wall mark right but
i’m the best at it and that’s what
1479
00:48:53,519 –> 00:48:54,962
[jk]: people right and i prove
1480
00:48:54,956 –> 00:48:54,977
[paris_vega]: m
1481
00:48:55,022 –> 00:48:57,886
[jk]: my competence every single bit and people
don’t prove their competence
1482
00:48:57,618 –> 00:48:58,187
[paris_vega]: oh
1483
00:48:58,327 –> 00:49:01,673
[jk]: they prove other other people’s competence
1484
00:49:01,316 –> 00:49:01,337
[paris_vega]: m
1485
00:49:01,813 –> 00:49:04,778
[jk]: what they’re good at so every time
i see a thread or a video or
1486
00:49:04,918 –> 00:49:06,561
[jk]: two cess here
1487
00:49:06,647 –> 00:49:07,277
[paris_vega]: yeah
1488
00:49:06,801 –> 00:49:09,345
[jk]: jeff bass ten keys to success
1489
00:49:09,017 –> 00:49:09,237
[paris_vega]: yeah
1490
00:49:10,007 –> 00:49:12,851
[jk]: cool what are your keys to success
and why
1491
00:49:12,887 –> 00:49:13,049
[paris_vega]: yeah
1492
00:49:12,911 –> 00:49:14,875
[jk]: should i listen to you it
1493
00:49:14,857 –> 00:49:15,280
[paris_vega]: that’s good
1494
00:49:15,636 –> 00:49:18,410
[jk]: so that’s the biggest one like what
people don’t prove what’s their good at
1495
00:49:19,428 –> 00:49:22,281
[paris_vega]: and dropping some serious gold here this
1496
00:49:22,272 –> 00:49:22,432
[jk]: okay
1497
00:49:22,321 –> 00:49:22,643
[paris_vega]: is good
1498
00:49:22,512 –> 00:49:23,937
[jk]: i told you man i told you
before we
1499
00:49:23,989 –> 00:49:24,111
[paris_vega]: it’s
1500
00:49:24,017 –> 00:49:24,177
[jk]: got him
1501
00:49:24,172 –> 00:49:24,395
[paris_vega]: good
1502
00:49:24,218 –> 00:49:27,187
[jk]: this call i asked him like your
it’s like yeah i’m good i’m like i
1503
00:49:28,620 –> 00:49:29,584
[jk]: i’m on let’s go
1504
00:49:30,200 –> 00:49:33,466
[paris_vega]: this is good it’s really good i’m
about sold an i just got to get
1505
00:49:33,486 –> 00:49:33,766
[paris_vega]: my twitter
1506
00:49:33,690 –> 00:49:34,530
[jk]: yeah
1507
00:49:33,826 –> 00:49:34,567
[paris_vega]: followers up so i can
1508
00:49:34,530 –> 00:49:34,672
[jk]: oh
1509
00:49:34,648 –> 00:49:41,243
[paris_vega]: hire you one day uh so are
there any other competitors you kind of you
1510
00:49:41,303 –> 00:49:45,381
[paris_vega]: touched on this just now you said
you’re the number one are you seeing others
1511
00:49:45,421 –> 00:49:47,669
[paris_vega]: who are trying to solve this problem
that you are in
1512
00:49:47,761 –> 00:49:47,782
[jk]: i
1513
00:49:47,770 –> 00:49:48,794
[paris_vega]: your specific niche
1514
00:49:49,620 –> 00:49:51,383
[jk]: i don’t have competition i’ve always
1515
00:49:51,552 –> 00:49:51,776
[paris_vega]: okay
1516
00:49:51,623 –> 00:49:55,490
[jk]: i’ve always believed that like deep down
like of course there are other two schedules
1517
00:49:55,550 –> 00:49:58,274
[jk]: like tweehunteris not the the only one
right but
1518
00:49:58,248 –> 00:49:58,390
[paris_vega]: yeah
1519
00:49:58,374 –> 00:50:00,558
[jk]: that belief i have no
1520
00:50:00,497 –> 00:50:01,097
[paris_vega]: yeah
1521
00:50:00,718 –> 00:50:07,094
[jk]: competition really allows me to patient and
play longer term games because social media business
1522
00:50:07,174 –> 00:50:12,321
[jk]: is a game in which whoever weighs
the models wins if i look at competition
1523
00:50:12,562 –> 00:50:13,884
[jk]: i get impatient if you can a
1524
00:50:13,877 –> 00:50:14,145
[paris_vega]: oh
1525
00:50:13,904 –> 00:50:16,108
[jk]: patient that one way so generally
1526
00:50:15,887 –> 00:50:15,907
[paris_vega]: m
1527
00:50:16,168 –> 00:50:19,133
[jk]: believe deep in my heart i have
no competition and
1528
00:50:19,967 –> 00:50:19,987
[paris_vega]: m
1529
00:50:20,214 –> 00:50:24,681
[jk]: are there other people selling to the
same people i am maybe but then they’re
1530
00:50:24,741 –> 00:50:26,163
[jk]: selling to a different
1531
00:50:26,072 –> 00:50:26,567
[paris_vega]: yes
1532
00:50:26,183 –> 00:50:28,986
[jk]: kind of fish my pond is so
small i’m the
1533
00:50:29,078 –> 00:50:29,220
[paris_vega]: yeah
1534
00:50:29,086 –> 00:50:30,228
[jk]: only one you know
1535
00:50:31,078 –> 00:50:35,686
[paris_vega]: it reminds me of what naval rovicant’s
talked about like re define what you do
1536
00:50:35,846 –> 00:50:37,609
[paris_vega]: until you’re the best in the world
at that
1537
00:50:37,713 –> 00:50:37,874
[jk]: yeah
1538
00:50:37,769 –> 00:50:37,990
[paris_vega]: thing
1539
00:50:38,960 –> 00:50:39,242
[jk]: correct
1540
00:50:39,132 –> 00:50:42,799
[paris_vega]: and that sounds like exactly what what
you’ve done you found that thing where you
1541
00:50:42,879 –> 00:50:47,934
[paris_vega]: re defined exactly what you dominate where
you can truthfully say i dominate this specific
1542
00:50:47,994 –> 00:50:48,215
[paris_vega]: thing
1543
00:50:48,920 –> 00:50:51,545
[jk]: there’s this guy on water his name’s
tim isntesing
1544
00:50:51,347 –> 00:50:51,947
[paris_vega]: yeah
1545
00:50:51,585 –> 00:50:51,925
[jk]: clients
1546
00:50:52,457 –> 00:50:53,417
[paris_vega]: oh
1547
00:50:52,546 –> 00:50:58,376
[jk]: he wrote it was impressive he does
tektokmanage right and everybody is talking about how
1548
00:50:58,416 –> 00:51:07,115
[jk]: to go viralandtehow to sell more guy
rode for a week threads on like three
1549
00:51:07,195 –> 00:51:10,372
[jk]: or four threads just how
1550
00:51:10,329 –> 00:51:10,451
[paris_vega]: eh
1551
00:51:10,472 –> 00:51:15,020
[jk]: to use pen tik tok vireos to
sell more
1552
00:51:14,978 –> 00:51:15,059
[paris_vega]: ah
1553
00:51:15,220 –> 00:51:17,504
[jk]: just pin he went
1554
00:51:17,580 –> 00:51:17,861
[paris_vega]: okay
1555
00:51:18,125 –> 00:51:21,491
[jk]: hard on it do you recognize how
small if a pond
1556
00:51:21,527 –> 00:51:22,487
[paris_vega]: oh
1557
00:51:21,551 –> 00:51:23,635
[jk]: that is yet there’s a lot
1558
00:51:23,516 –> 00:51:23,677
[paris_vega]: yeah
1559
00:51:23,695 –> 00:51:25,418
[jk]: of money there and a lot of
people want
1560
00:51:25,338 –> 00:51:25,499
[paris_vega]: sure
1561
00:51:25,458 –> 00:51:25,719
[jk]: from it
1562
00:51:26,941 –> 00:51:28,268
[paris_vega]: wow oh
1563
00:51:28,370 –> 00:51:30,080
[jk]: impressive ship i was i was super
1564
00:51:30,007 –> 00:51:30,149
[paris_vega]: yeah
1565
00:51:30,120 –> 00:51:30,864
[jk]: impressed when i saw that
1566
00:51:32,210 –> 00:51:36,700
[paris_vega]: so you’re saying how you prove every
day you’re the best you give evidence can
1567
00:51:36,740 –> 00:51:39,383
[paris_vega]: you give us one example of maybe
your biggest win
1568
00:51:39,240 –> 00:51:39,441
[jk]: oh
1569
00:51:39,443 –> 00:51:42,668
[paris_vega]: in this company the tweet and clients
one
1570
00:51:42,690 –> 00:51:42,850
[jk]: yeah
1571
00:51:42,708 –> 00:51:43,132
[paris_vega]: of your biggest
1572
00:51:43,091 –> 00:51:43,171
[jk]: so
1573
00:51:43,212 –> 00:51:43,414
[paris_vega]: ones
1574
00:51:44,133 –> 00:51:48,380
[jk]: yeah i won’t give you examples of
my winsoi’ll give yo example of my clients
1575
00:51:48,600 –> 00:51:49,642
[jk]: because those are the ones to count
1576
00:51:49,577 –> 00:51:50,538
[paris_vega]: yeah here you
1577
00:51:50,543 –> 00:51:50,663
[jk]: but
1578
00:51:50,578 –> 00:51:50,639
[paris_vega]: go
1579
00:51:51,645 –> 00:51:51,906
[jk]: fifteen
1580
00:51:51,708 –> 00:51:51,991
[paris_vega]: yes
1581
00:51:51,946 –> 00:51:54,209
[jk]: other followers michael hoffman he came
1582
00:51:54,281 –> 00:51:54,383
[paris_vega]: oh
1583
00:51:54,350 –> 00:51:57,392
[jk]: to me he had this passive income
academy
1584
00:51:57,137 –> 00:51:57,258
[paris_vega]: ye
1585
00:51:57,714 –> 00:52:02,932
[jk]: so is was going to show people
how to just how to build passive income
1586
00:52:03,012 –> 00:52:03,853
[jk]: with banding machines
1587
00:52:04,247 –> 00:52:04,412
[paris_vega]: yes
1588
00:52:04,574 –> 00:52:04,935
[jk]: and he had
1589
00:52:04,949 –> 00:52:05,153
[paris_vega]: okay
1590
00:52:04,975 –> 00:52:07,960
[jk]: this offer we gave him a few
tweeks we gave in a few d m
1591
00:52:08,060 –> 00:52:13,449
[jk]: sets till he went to thrdykmonth he
made thirty one thousand dollars in thirty days
1592
00:52:13,730 –> 00:52:14,172
[jk]: with fifteen
1593
00:52:14,168 –> 00:52:14,309
[paris_vega]: wow
1594
00:52:14,232 –> 00:52:16,623
[jk]: hundred followers things was like no
1595
00:52:16,817 –> 00:52:17,118
[paris_vega]: what was he
1596
00:52:17,125 –> 00:52:17,306
[jk]: that’s
1597
00:52:17,158 –> 00:52:17,339
[paris_vega]: making
1598
00:52:17,366 –> 00:52:17,567
[jk]: good
1599
00:52:17,399 –> 00:52:18,302
[paris_vega]: before anything
1600
00:52:19,060 –> 00:52:22,363
[jk]: as making his making twelve twelve twelve
1601
00:52:22,538 –> 00:52:22,721
[paris_vega]: yeah
1602
00:52:23,044 –> 00:52:26,889
[jk]: and it ended up like i think
forty three can totals
1603
00:52:26,808 –> 00:52:28,802
[paris_vega]: that about tripled it that’s awesome
1604
00:52:28,650 –> 00:52:29,752
[jk]: i was funking awesome
1605
00:52:29,699 –> 00:52:29,800
[paris_vega]: ah
1606
00:52:30,353 –> 00:52:30,673
[jk]: this guy
1607
00:52:30,689 –> 00:52:30,891
[paris_vega]: you know
1608
00:52:30,854 –> 00:52:33,238
[jk]: tim so he was making he got
1609
00:52:33,227 –> 00:52:33,887
[paris_vega]: oh
1610
00:52:33,318 –> 00:52:35,521
[jk]: band actually so you
1611
00:52:35,657 –> 00:52:35,677
[paris_vega]: m
1612
00:52:35,762 –> 00:52:39,588
[jk]: ben from twitter had like ten thousand
followers a band had to re start all
1613
00:52:39,648 –> 00:52:44,113
[jk]: over again he has three thousand followers
now with his new account that he had
1614
00:52:44,173 –> 00:52:48,958
[jk]: to start in sixty days to go
from zero to three followers and made thirty
1615
00:52:49,058 –> 00:52:50,763
[jk]: thousand dollars recurrent
1616
00:52:51,377 –> 00:52:52,076
[paris_vega]: yeah
1617
00:52:51,840 –> 00:52:53,122
[jk]: thirty days in
1618
00:52:53,128 –> 00:52:53,269
[paris_vega]: wow
1619
00:52:53,222 –> 00:52:54,565
[jk]: sixty days so yeah
1620
00:52:54,647 –> 00:52:55,397
[paris_vega]: yeah
1621
00:52:55,726 –> 00:52:58,872
[jk]: that’s what happens when you’re honest about
your approach when you
1622
00:52:59,089 –> 00:52:59,230
[paris_vega]: yeah
1623
00:52:59,513 –> 00:53:03,439
[jk]: are like hey no matter the i’m
the best of war because
1624
00:53:03,540 –> 00:53:03,743
[paris_vega]: right
1625
00:53:04,080 –> 00:53:08,806
[jk]: we think that because the pond is
small that means small money and that is
1626
00:53:08,846 –> 00:53:12,232
[jk]: a false that is a false belief
it’s not true if the pond
1627
00:53:12,137 –> 00:53:12,767
[paris_vega]: yeah
1628
00:53:12,272 –> 00:53:13,656
[jk]: is small there’s probably a lot of
money
1629
00:53:14,807 –> 00:53:19,119
[paris_vega]: right clarifies what what you offer to
the world so you you can attract
1630
00:53:19,192 –> 00:53:19,253
[jk]: no
1631
00:53:19,199 –> 00:53:21,405
[paris_vega]: i guess exactly those people that need
that thing
1632
00:53:22,030 –> 00:53:24,514
[jk]: and it’s also honest to like let’s
say you
1633
00:53:24,547 –> 00:53:24,669
[paris_vega]: yeah
1634
00:53:24,554 –> 00:53:26,137
[jk]: want to let’s let’s say you want
a data girl
1635
00:53:26,096 –> 00:53:26,117
[paris_vega]: m
1636
00:53:26,197 –> 00:53:32,868
[jk]: like there’s two approaching like approaches right
there’s the dude on instagram that likes everything
1637
00:53:33,326 –> 00:53:33,347
[paris_vega]: m
1638
00:53:33,329 –> 00:53:35,933
[jk]: she posed and comments of fire emogi
and then
1639
00:53:36,077 –> 00:53:37,727
[paris_vega]: yeah
1640
00:53:36,113 –> 00:53:37,235
[jk]: agree to everything and
1641
00:53:37,997 –> 00:53:38,360
[paris_vega]: oh
1642
00:53:38,057 –> 00:53:39,219
[jk]: hopefully she’ll have sex
1643
00:53:39,257 –> 00:53:39,617
[paris_vega]: oh
1644
00:53:39,319 –> 00:53:42,344
[jk]: with you right and then and then
it’s like
1645
00:53:43,045 –> 00:53:43,385
[paris_vega]: dang
1646
00:53:43,065 –> 00:53:49,852
[jk]: one day like one day after three
honest be like hey let’s go coffee right
1647
00:53:49,907 –> 00:53:51,977
[paris_vega]: oh
1648
00:53:51,014 –> 00:53:53,217
[jk]: yeah right that’s it that’s
1649
00:53:53,237 –> 00:53:53,478
[paris_vega]: yeah
1650
00:53:53,518 –> 00:53:56,363
[jk]: the audience building approach most people have
right
1651
00:53:56,429 –> 00:53:56,611
[paris_vega]: yeah
1652
00:53:56,643 –> 00:53:59,468
[jk]: get the good will and then tis
but then
1653
00:53:59,567 –> 00:54:00,707
[paris_vega]: yeah
1654
00:53:59,869 –> 00:54:04,423
[jk]: i go with other approach was just
just being the rat like hey like maybe
1655
00:54:04,483 –> 00:54:07,590
[jk]: you c or one and like eight
like i like it
1656
00:54:07,997 –> 00:54:08,259
[paris_vega]: yeah
1657
00:54:08,260 –> 00:54:11,384
[jk]: so up being honest and that allows
you to get
1658
00:54:11,987 –> 00:54:12,436
[paris_vega]: ye
1659
00:54:12,105 –> 00:54:13,767
[jk]: nose fast but
1660
00:54:13,817 –> 00:54:13,999
[paris_vega]: ye
1661
00:54:13,827 –> 00:54:15,449
[jk]: you throw craps
1662
00:54:15,857 –> 00:54:16,434
[paris_vega]: yeah
1663
00:54:16,390 –> 00:54:18,552
[jk]: it’s just more honest you have this
quality
1664
00:54:18,427 –> 00:54:18,548
[paris_vega]: yeah
1665
00:54:18,692 –> 00:54:21,734
[jk]: audience and like that’s why i don’t
believe people who just say
1666
00:54:21,797 –> 00:54:22,120
[paris_vega]: oh
1667
00:54:22,175 –> 00:54:24,957
[jk]: hey i’m here to provide value bro
i’m just here to network
1668
00:54:24,917 –> 00:54:25,158
[paris_vega]: oh
1669
00:54:25,017 –> 00:54:26,759
[jk]: with interesting people is bullshit
1670
00:54:27,317 –> 00:54:27,598
[paris_vega]: oh
1671
00:54:27,610 –> 00:54:30,099
[jk]: o ship you’re here to make money
let’s just
1672
00:54:30,118 –> 00:54:30,261
[paris_vega]: yeah
1673
00:54:30,159 –> 00:54:31,886
[jk]: be honest about it right so
1674
00:54:31,977 –> 00:54:32,118
[paris_vega]: yeah
1675
00:54:33,300 –> 00:54:34,526
[jk]: ever since i was honest
1676
00:54:35,147 –> 00:54:35,431
[paris_vega]: oh
1677
00:54:35,550 –> 00:54:42,281
[jk]: bold my approach and i taught that
to people one is people didn’t get shocked
1678
00:54:42,362 –> 00:54:45,727
[jk]: when they were trying to monetize because
you know hey i kind of told you
1679
00:54:45,767 –> 00:54:47,210
[jk]: that in the beginning like the girl
isn’t
1680
00:54:47,061 –> 00:54:47,265
[paris_vega]: right
1681
00:54:47,370 –> 00:54:51,236
[jk]: shocked when the guys for a kiss
because he kind of told her he’s in
1682
00:54:51,276 –> 00:54:52,418
[jk]: to her you know from
1683
00:54:52,445 –> 00:54:52,587
[paris_vega]: yeah
1684
00:54:52,478 –> 00:54:52,919
[jk]: the beginning
1685
00:54:53,829 –> 00:54:53,969
[paris_vega]: yep
1686
00:54:54,050 –> 00:54:58,916
[jk]: and and too it’s just they become
recognized as category things because they do one
1687
00:54:58,936 –> 00:55:00,158
[jk]: thing better than everybody else
1688
00:55:01,888 –> 00:55:07,157
[paris_vega]: yeah you mentioned that that that one
guy got band is that something that you
1689
00:55:07,638 –> 00:55:10,423
[paris_vega]: see that people have to be careful
about a lot or is it just a
1690
00:55:10,503 –> 00:55:12,206
[paris_vega]: fluke thing that hapens every once a
while or
1691
00:55:13,061 –> 00:55:14,965
[jk]: braile don’t know why he had been
but twitter
1692
00:55:15,127 –> 00:55:15,388
[paris_vega]: really
1693
00:55:15,486 –> 00:55:19,945
[jk]: hitters reared there’s a few ways if
you’re running twitter as go and include in
1694
00:55:20,005 –> 00:55:21,769
[jk]: a guarantee our promises you will get
bound
1695
00:55:22,361 –> 00:55:22,585
[paris_vega]: okay
1696
00:55:22,680 –> 00:55:25,307
[jk]: just it’s just bad now on twitter
tom
1697
00:55:26,117 –> 00:55:27,527
[paris_vega]: oh
1698
00:55:26,510 –> 00:55:30,116
[jk]: don’t get involved in drama don’t fight
against the left wing
1699
00:55:29,897 –> 00:55:30,159
[paris_vega]: oh
1700
00:55:30,757 –> 00:55:36,226
[jk]: don’t include very controversial tweeds and don’t
talk about reetweets don’t talk about like under
1701
00:55:36,306 –> 00:55:42,207
[jk]: cover stuff those those will keep you
fine don’t get into fights play nice
1702
00:55:42,143 –> 00:55:45,109
[paris_vega]: yeah yeah focus
1703
00:55:44,910 –> 00:55:45,051
[jk]: yeah
1704
00:55:45,209 –> 00:55:47,382
[paris_vega]: on just proving your service value
1705
00:55:47,950 –> 00:55:49,192
[jk]: they’re just like
1706
00:55:49,247 –> 00:55:49,609
[paris_vega]: oh
1707
00:55:49,593 –> 00:55:55,105
[jk]: every time people start fights on twitter
i already know they’re not making money
1708
00:55:55,046 –> 00:55:55,067
[paris_vega]: m
1709
00:55:55,365 –> 00:55:56,047
[jk]: because then you wouldn’t
1710
00:55:55,847 –> 00:55:55,967
[paris_vega]: ye
1711
00:55:56,087 –> 00:55:56,908
[jk]: be fighting on twitter
1712
00:55:58,050 –> 00:55:59,512
[paris_vega]: right yeah becaus
1713
00:55:59,421 –> 00:55:59,584
[jk]: yeah
1714
00:55:59,532 –> 00:56:01,495
[paris_vega]: you got skin at the game if
you’re cully earning money from it
1715
00:56:02,200 –> 00:56:07,922
[jk]: yeah i saw another great tide by
coliqrities i just had sex with my smoking
1716
00:56:08,002 –> 00:56:10,745
[jk]: hot wife time to go complaining to
a no
1717
00:56:11,367 –> 00:56:15,894
[paris_vega]: yeahwewl
1718
00:56:11,486 –> 00:56:17,823
[jk]: that doesn’t happen yeah oh uh
1719
00:56:18,659 –> 00:56:19,881
[paris_vega]: so since you
1720
00:56:19,959 –> 00:56:19,980
[jk]: h
1721
00:56:19,961 –> 00:56:24,551
[paris_vega]: started this new business was that started
during tweet hunter or did you have to
1722
00:56:24,571 –> 00:56:25,474
[paris_vega]: wait till after or
1723
00:56:25,840 –> 00:56:26,868
[jk]: it was started
1724
00:56:28,247 –> 00:56:28,490
[paris_vega]: oh
1725
00:56:28,920 –> 00:56:30,322
[jk]: during hunter again like
1726
00:56:31,696 –> 00:56:31,838
[paris_vega]: yeah
1727
00:56:31,704 –> 00:56:32,846
[jk]: my back my heart
1728
00:56:32,870 –> 00:56:33,052
[paris_vega]: yeah
1729
00:56:32,886 –> 00:56:33,067
[jk]: wasn’t
1730
00:56:33,948 –> 00:56:34,090
[paris_vega]: yeah
1731
00:56:34,589 –> 00:56:38,936
[jk]: i got distracted you know like in
the matris the lady with the red dress
1732
00:56:39,137 –> 00:56:40,800
[jk]: cormusictalks about this you know
1733
00:56:40,889 –> 00:56:41,032
[paris_vega]: yeah
1734
00:56:40,960 –> 00:56:42,803
[jk]: neil gets attracted by the girl like
that
1735
00:56:43,098 –> 00:56:43,240
[paris_vega]: yeah
1736
00:56:43,244 –> 00:56:44,926
[jk]: that’s what happened now i
1737
00:56:45,017 –> 00:56:46,847
[paris_vega]: yeah
1738
00:56:45,427 –> 00:56:49,514
[jk]: told my new business porter like up
front like i’m going to do just this
1739
00:56:49,614 –> 00:56:52,399
[jk]: for three years are you in it
because i don’t want you to quit like
1740
00:56:52,459 –> 00:56:52,739
[jk]: i quit
1741
00:56:53,117 –> 00:56:53,419
[paris_vega]: oh
1742
00:56:53,680 –> 00:56:53,800
[jk]: yeah
1743
00:56:54,347 –> 00:56:54,650
[paris_vega]: yeah
1744
00:56:55,644 –> 00:56:57,348
[jk]: we sign a contract where it could
work together
1745
00:56:58,688 –> 00:57:03,213
[paris_vega]: cool and this is a service business
that could go long term but right now
1746
00:57:03,273 –> 00:57:07,393
[paris_vega]: it sounds like you said you just
committed to three years it
1747
00:57:07,968 –> 00:57:08,130
[jk]: yeah
1748
00:57:09,098 –> 00:57:09,620
[paris_vega]: and so is this
1749
00:57:09,504 –> 00:57:09,748
[jk]: listen
1750
00:57:09,680 –> 00:57:13,449
[paris_vega]: something you’re planning on trying to flip
eventually
1751
00:57:12,990 –> 00:57:13,210
[jk]: oh
1752
00:57:13,589 –> 00:57:15,774
[paris_vega]: and have another sale tight moment or
1753
00:57:15,739 –> 00:57:15,780
[jk]: ah
1754
00:57:15,814 –> 00:57:16,295
[paris_vega]: is this like a
1755
00:57:16,260 –> 00:57:17,130
[jk]: yeah
1756
00:57:17,578 –> 00:57:17,942
[paris_vega]: kind of seeing
1757
00:57:17,890 –> 00:57:18,050
[jk]: yeah
1758
00:57:17,962 –> 00:57:18,446
[paris_vega]: how it goes
1759
00:57:18,651 –> 00:57:19,912
[jk]: maybe pete
1760
00:57:19,778 –> 00:57:19,942
[paris_vega]: okay
1761
00:57:19,932 –> 00:57:20,093
[jk]: cool
1762
00:57:21,357 –> 00:57:21,498
[paris_vega]: yeah
1763
00:57:21,575 –> 00:57:23,136
[jk]: to me it’s just i just
1764
00:57:23,029 –> 00:57:23,275
[paris_vega]: yes
1765
00:57:23,197 –> 00:57:25,862
[jk]: want to see how much i can
grow it as
1766
00:57:25,847 –> 00:57:26,871
[paris_vega]: oh yeah
1767
00:57:26,880 –> 00:57:29,988
[jk]: because i have such strong operations with
ryan with me
1768
00:57:31,037 –> 00:57:32,357
[paris_vega]: yeah
1769
00:57:31,380 –> 00:57:35,607
[jk]: i know that dude he can’t take
the leads like he can take the business
1770
00:57:35,957 –> 00:57:36,242
[paris_vega]: yes
1771
00:57:36,047 –> 00:57:38,552
[jk]: so it’s up to me to get
the fucking business i just want to see
1772
00:57:38,592 –> 00:57:40,174
[jk]: how big can be honestly
1773
00:57:40,247 –> 00:57:40,389
[paris_vega]: yeah
1774
00:57:40,254 –> 00:57:45,608
[jk]: and then i’ll make a decision when
you know my my beach mansion some day
1775
00:57:46,537 –> 00:57:49,903
[paris_vega]: yeah is it how’s the growth rate
how’s it looking
1776
00:57:49,710 –> 00:57:49,872
[jk]: oh
1777
00:57:49,963 –> 00:57:54,927
[paris_vega]: like are you getting to frequent sales
are your clothing sales well what’s your kind
1778
00:57:54,947 –> 00:57:54,987
[paris_vega]: of
1779
00:57:54,972 –> 00:57:55,113
[jk]: yeah
1780
00:57:55,007 –> 00:57:57,155
[paris_vega]: your total number of customers you’ve served
maybe
1781
00:57:57,910 –> 00:58:00,957
[jk]: we got like eighty people inside
1782
00:58:01,577 –> 00:58:02,807
[paris_vega]: yeah
1783
00:58:02,602 –> 00:58:05,092
[jk]: so we actually
1784
00:58:04,893 –> 00:58:04,913
[paris_vega]: a
1785
00:58:05,112 –> 00:58:07,831
[jk]: the revenue has gone down but the
recurrent
1786
00:58:07,856 –> 00:58:07,877
[paris_vega]: m
1787
00:58:07,891 –> 00:58:12,899
[jk]: revenue has been has been good so
before we used to charge fifteen c up
1788
00:58:12,999 –> 00:58:14,562
[jk]: front for the entire thing
1789
00:58:14,433 –> 00:58:14,453
[paris_vega]: m
1790
00:58:15,343 –> 00:58:15,524
[jk]: now
1791
00:58:15,479 –> 00:58:15,683
[paris_vega]: okay
1792
00:58:16,205 –> 00:58:20,692
[jk]: we change the like you know let’s
focus on recurren revenue so we charged to
1793
00:58:20,812 –> 00:58:25,738
[jk]: kan so more people are coming in
and that allows us to have the recurrent
1794
00:58:25,798 –> 00:58:26,119
[jk]: revenue
1795
00:58:26,087 –> 00:58:26,309
[paris_vega]: oh
1796
00:58:27,500 –> 00:58:31,064
[jk]: it’s nice not having to fight for
sale every month you know
1797
00:58:31,518 –> 00:58:31,700
[paris_vega]: right
1798
00:58:31,545 –> 00:58:31,645
[jk]: so
1799
00:58:32,205 –> 00:58:32,507
[paris_vega]: for sure
1800
00:58:32,426 –> 00:58:34,609
[jk]: it’s nice having that that was ryan’s
idea he said
1801
00:58:35,387 –> 00:58:36,497
[paris_vega]: oh
1802
00:58:35,590 –> 00:58:38,413
[jk]: like like the jasper screens are cool
but let’s
1803
00:58:38,267 –> 00:58:38,408
[paris_vega]: ye
1804
00:58:38,493 –> 00:58:40,135
[jk]: focus on cash flow let’s focus on
1805
00:58:40,547 –> 00:58:40,708
[paris_vega]: yeah
1806
00:58:40,616 –> 00:58:41,557
[jk]: this so
1807
00:58:41,612 –> 00:58:41,953
[paris_vega]: make it more
1808
00:58:42,137 –> 00:58:42,898
[jk]: was ryan’s doing
1809
00:58:44,328 –> 00:58:44,429
[paris_vega]: and
1810
00:58:44,381 –> 00:58:44,525
[jk]: yeah
1811
00:58:44,469 –> 00:58:47,033
[paris_vega]: so have your tactics changed because you
said
1812
00:58:46,920 –> 00:58:47,161
[jk]: oh
1813
00:58:47,194 –> 00:58:48,095
[paris_vega]: cold diamalot
1814
00:58:48,429 –> 00:58:48,570
[jk]: yeah
1815
00:58:48,676 –> 00:58:49,858
[paris_vega]: up front and
1816
00:58:49,830 –> 00:58:50,091
[jk]: yeah
1817
00:58:49,979 –> 00:58:54,587
[paris_vega]: it seems like with your audience that
maybe you’ve you get some in bound the
1818
00:58:54,627 –> 00:58:55,470
[paris_vega]: leads coming in
1819
00:58:56,183 –> 00:58:58,767
[jk]: yeah i don’t get much just people
like like
1820
00:58:59,359 –> 00:58:59,560
[paris_vega]: really
1821
00:59:00,070 –> 00:59:02,414
[jk]: people don’t get as much but as
1822
00:59:02,507 –> 00:59:02,649
[paris_vega]: ye
1823
00:59:02,514 –> 00:59:03,716
[jk]: people think what i like to do
1824
00:59:04,487 –> 00:59:04,648
[paris_vega]: yeah
1825
00:59:04,998 –> 00:59:09,928
[jk]: as i like to go over my
own followers and the book look qualified and
1826
00:59:09,968 –> 00:59:14,717
[jk]: what i teach people is go to
people who have the audience you would like
1827
00:59:14,758 –> 00:59:15,118
[jk]: to have
1828
00:59:16,130 –> 00:59:16,394
[paris_vega]: okay
1829
00:59:16,611 –> 00:59:19,707
[jk]: d m vos and look qualified so
you’re kind of audience happen
1830
00:59:20,917 –> 00:59:21,057
[paris_vega]: yeah
1831
00:59:20,957 –> 00:59:21,160
[jk]: yeah
1832
00:59:21,758 –> 00:59:26,506
[paris_vega]: that makes sense all right you spend
a lot of time with me already and
1833
00:59:26,546 –> 00:59:30,432
[paris_vega]: i really appreciate it and if you
have a few more minutes want to just
1834
00:59:30,513 –> 00:59:32,716
[paris_vega]: go down a list of a few
rapid fire questions
1835
00:59:33,000 –> 00:59:33,403
[jk]: oh
1836
00:59:33,420 –> 00:59:37,571
[paris_vega]: about a few common tactics that people
use and you can kind of yes or
1837
00:59:37,632 –> 00:59:39,423
[paris_vega]: no they’re not you is them
1838
00:59:40,982 –> 00:59:42,267
[jk]: whether or not i’ve used them
1839
00:59:42,937 –> 00:59:43,078
[paris_vega]: yeah
1840
00:59:44,520 –> 00:59:44,661
[jk]: shut
1841
00:59:45,507 –> 00:59:51,513
[paris_vega]: right have you used well the first
one on the list twitter you’ve already answered
1842
00:59:51,279 –> 00:59:51,480
[jk]: yes
1843
00:59:51,553 –> 00:59:54,236
[paris_vega]: that tholyfaceboall
1844
00:59:53,486 –> 00:59:55,201
[jk]: i have no
1845
00:59:55,230 –> 00:59:57,408
[paris_vega]: yes instagram
1846
00:59:58,700 –> 01:00:01,067
[jk]: somewhat it’s just there now
1847
01:00:01,368 –> 01:00:03,393
[paris_vega]: okay and this is more in the
context of
1848
01:00:03,771 –> 01:00:03,851
[jk]: ah
1849
01:00:04,175 –> 01:00:07,122
[paris_vega]: going after customers on these platforms are
advertising and that kind of thing
1850
01:00:07,542 –> 01:00:08,364
[jk]: yeah i mean it’s called tweet
1851
01:00:08,204 –> 01:00:08,585
[paris_vega]: you tube
1852
01:00:08,464 –> 01:00:09,626
[jk]: and clients you know so
1853
01:00:09,927 –> 01:00:10,109
[paris_vega]: that’s
1854
01:00:10,066 –> 01:00:10,187
[jk]: might
1855
01:00:10,170 –> 01:00:10,352
[paris_vega]: right
1856
01:00:10,227 –> 01:00:10,427
[jk]: as well
1857
01:00:10,392 –> 01:00:10,554
[paris_vega]: that’s
1858
01:00:10,507 –> 01:00:10,607
[jk]: just
1859
01:00:10,615 –> 01:00:10,817
[paris_vega]: right
1860
01:00:10,667 –> 01:00:11,068
[jk]: go through
1861
01:00:11,867 –> 01:00:12,193
[paris_vega]: uh
1862
01:00:11,990 –> 01:00:12,551
[jk]: you to yes
1863
01:00:12,846 –> 01:00:12,887
[paris_vega]: uh
1864
01:00:12,951 –> 01:00:13,532
[jk]: i’m going hard
1865
01:00:13,438 –> 01:00:13,643
[paris_vega]: okay
1866
01:00:13,612 –> 01:00:14,995
[jk]: on you tube because it’s awesome
1867
01:00:14,818 –> 01:00:15,000
[paris_vega]: okay
1868
01:00:15,035 –> 01:00:18,687
[jk]: as audience nurturing so yeah i’m going
hard on you jake molina
1869
01:00:19,907 –> 01:00:20,167
[paris_vega]: oh
1870
01:00:20,070 –> 01:00:21,816
[jk]: yeah ah
1871
01:00:22,033 –> 01:00:22,395
[paris_vega]: linked in
1872
01:00:23,240 –> 01:00:25,410
[jk]: yes yeah
1873
01:00:24,927 –> 01:00:26,411
[paris_vega]: okay interest
1874
01:00:27,160 –> 01:00:27,241
[jk]: no
1875
01:00:28,887 –> 01:00:29,148
[paris_vega]: read it
1876
01:00:30,120 –> 01:00:30,181
[jk]: no
1877
01:00:31,593 –> 01:00:32,054
[paris_vega]: snap chat
1878
01:00:32,960 –> 01:00:33,040
[jk]: no
1879
01:00:33,979 –> 01:00:34,607
[paris_vega]: yeah
1880
01:00:34,505 –> 01:00:35,167
[jk]: is that still a thing
1881
01:00:36,278 –> 01:00:36,298
[paris_vega]: i
1882
01:00:36,330 –> 01:00:36,611
[jk]: oh
1883
01:00:36,339 –> 01:00:39,693
[paris_vega]: don’t know i don’t use it myself
tik tok
1884
01:00:41,251 –> 01:00:42,296
[jk]: kind of er but now
1885
01:00:43,178 –> 01:00:45,525
[paris_vega]: okay product hunt
1886
01:00:47,300 –> 01:00:48,130
[jk]: yes for a ted hunter
1887
01:00:48,767 –> 01:00:50,854
[paris_vega]: okay medium
1888
01:00:52,111 –> 01:00:52,192
[jk]: no
1889
01:00:53,719 –> 01:00:54,039
[paris_vega]: cora
1890
01:00:55,390 –> 01:00:57,723
[jk]: no ah
1891
01:00:58,029 –> 01:00:59,452
[paris_vega]: your own separate websideer
1892
01:00:59,070 –> 01:00:59,790
[jk]: oh
1893
01:00:59,513 –> 01:01:00,355
[paris_vega]: blog outside of
1894
01:01:00,780 –> 01:01:01,080
[jk]: yah
1895
01:01:01,177 –> 01:01:01,421
[paris_vega]: twitter
1896
01:01:02,604 –> 01:01:03,626
[jk]: which inclines at come
1897
01:01:04,377 –> 01:01:04,757
[paris_vega]: there we go
1898
01:01:05,580 –> 01:01:06,004
[jk]: oh
1899
01:01:05,839 –> 01:01:10,106
[paris_vega]: um in the other forms or like
nitch industry sites are you active on those
1900
01:01:10,710 –> 01:01:12,822
[jk]: yeah really
1901
01:01:14,297 –> 01:01:20,993
[paris_vega]: yah um and then a couple other
like review based sides that’s more software related
1902
01:01:21,054 –> 01:01:21,555
[paris_vega]: but g two
1903
01:01:22,740 –> 01:01:22,821
[jk]: no
1904
01:01:23,907 –> 01:01:24,367
[paris_vega]: cap terra
1905
01:01:25,780 –> 01:01:25,862
[jk]: no
1906
01:01:26,871 –> 01:01:27,432
[paris_vega]: trust pilot
1907
01:01:28,330 –> 01:01:29,432
[jk]: no i don’t
1908
01:01:29,375 –> 01:01:29,495
[paris_vega]: all
1909
01:01:29,493 –> 01:01:29,593
[jk]: want
1910
01:01:29,535 –> 01:01:29,696
[paris_vega]: right
1911
01:01:29,693 –> 01:01:30,294
[jk]: any of those to
1912
01:01:30,977 –> 01:01:33,688
[paris_vega]: hum
1913
01:01:31,116 –> 01:01:31,316
[jk]: lose
1914
01:01:33,849 –> 01:01:35,114
[paris_vega]: what about cold calling
1915
01:01:35,340 –> 01:01:36,920
[jk]: yeah m
1916
01:01:37,338 –> 01:01:38,811
[paris_vega]: i’d like to cut the ms but
1917
01:01:38,709 –> 01:01:43,056
[jk]: m i don’t do call call well
i have a setter so every time somebody
1918
01:01:43,096 –> 01:01:44,959
[jk]: drops your phone he i wouldn’t
1919
01:01:44,738 –> 01:01:44,880
[paris_vega]: yeah
1920
01:01:44,980 –> 01:01:46,121
[jk]: call that cold
1921
01:01:45,947 –> 01:01:46,351
[paris_vega]: oh
1922
01:01:46,542 –> 01:01:48,145
[jk]: because the kind of inmounlead
1923
01:01:47,807 –> 01:01:47,827
[paris_vega]: m
1924
01:01:48,285 –> 01:01:49,227
[jk]: so i don’t
1925
01:01:49,169 –> 01:01:49,393
[paris_vega]: okay
1926
01:01:49,247 –> 01:01:51,474
[jk]: know how you call that i call
setting payment
1927
01:01:52,757 –> 01:01:53,579
[paris_vega]: okay so that’s more
1928
01:01:53,850 –> 01:01:53,911
[jk]: ye
1929
01:01:53,980 –> 01:01:55,625
[paris_vega]: i guess qualifying somebody who’s already
1930
01:01:55,290 –> 01:01:55,513
[jk]: yeah
1931
01:01:56,817 –> 01:01:57,301
[paris_vega]: contacted
1932
01:01:56,910 –> 01:01:57,313
[jk]: it’s a tree
1933
01:01:57,361 –> 01:01:57,502
[paris_vega]: you
1934
01:01:57,414 –> 01:01:58,662
[jk]: as club not a co
1935
01:01:59,057 –> 01:02:02,027
[paris_vega]: okay snail mail
1936
01:02:02,190 –> 01:02:02,850
[jk]: yeah
1937
01:02:02,328 –> 01:02:04,014
[paris_vega]: like physically mailing things
1938
01:02:04,824 –> 01:02:06,110
[jk]: uh no that’s a good idea
1939
01:02:07,107 –> 01:02:10,543
[paris_vega]: okay um influence rads
1940
01:02:11,950 –> 01:02:12,651
[jk]: uh
1941
01:02:12,887 –> 01:02:13,308
[paris_vega]: oh
1942
01:02:14,173 –> 01:02:15,995
[jk]: yeah on to i mean
1943
01:02:15,977 –> 01:02:16,637
[paris_vega]: oh
1944
01:02:16,076 –> 01:02:18,239
[jk]: i paid for we when i stared
first rating but yeah
1945
01:02:18,857 –> 01:02:20,628
[paris_vega]: okay email marketing
1946
01:02:21,620 –> 01:02:22,527
[jk]: yes yes
1947
01:02:22,667 –> 01:02:23,327
[paris_vega]: yeah
1948
01:02:22,709 –> 01:02:23,415
[jk]: i have an melis
1949
01:02:24,467 –> 01:02:26,734
[paris_vega]: okay do you do cold emailing
1950
01:02:27,920 –> 01:02:32,294
[jk]: i have yeah actually im goin to
podcast because of it have someone sending
1951
01:02:32,317 –> 01:02:32,537
[paris_vega]: okay
1952
01:02:32,334 –> 01:02:33,517
[jk]: colin podcast
1953
01:02:34,923 –> 01:02:41,688
[paris_vega]: that’s right um and any kind of
advertising re targeting traffic from your site that
1954
01:02:41,728 –> 01:02:42,132
[paris_vega]: kind of thing
1955
01:02:42,942 –> 01:02:43,285
[jk]: next year
1956
01:02:44,247 –> 01:02:48,935
[paris_vega]: next year okay cool well that’s the
list man um
1957
01:02:49,530 –> 01:02:49,871
[jk]: oh
1958
01:02:50,428 –> 01:02:52,207
[paris_vega]: awesome that
1959
01:02:52,159 –> 01:02:52,340
[jk]: cool
1960
01:02:52,227 –> 01:02:54,734
[paris_vega]: was really insightful to see how you’re
doing things
1961
01:02:55,890 –> 01:02:56,475
[jk]: it was good to talk
1962
01:02:58,290 –> 01:03:01,522
[paris_vega]: any other last words or advice for
people out there trying to trying to get
1963
01:03:01,542 –> 01:03:02,124
[paris_vega]: something started
1964
01:03:02,831 –> 01:03:04,874
[jk]: yeah just can do it you
1965
01:03:04,917 –> 01:03:05,017
[paris_vega]: here
1966
01:03:04,934 –> 01:03:05,055
[jk]: just
1967
01:03:05,058 –> 01:03:05,098
[paris_vega]: we
1968
01:03:05,095 –> 01:03:05,235
[jk]: send
1969
01:03:05,158 –> 01:03:05,239
[paris_vega]: go
1970
01:03:05,275 –> 01:03:06,517
[jk]: the ms talk to people
1971
01:03:06,577 –> 01:03:06,838
[paris_vega]: awesome
1972
01:03:06,757 –> 01:03:06,938
[jk]: just
1973
01:03:06,898 –> 01:03:06,958
[paris_vega]: and
1974
01:03:07,018 –> 01:03:07,118
[jk]: the
1975
01:03:07,019 –> 01:03:12,077
[paris_vega]: if they want to yeah and if
they want to hire you reach
1976
01:03:11,970 –> 01:03:12,271
[jk]: yeah
1977
01:03:12,137 –> 01:03:13,364
[paris_vega]: out to you where can they find
you
1978
01:03:14,036 –> 01:03:18,680
[jk]: yeah so i’m basically a tourratic so
go to it jake molina
1979
01:03:18,660 –> 01:03:18,844
[paris_vega]: yeah
1980
01:03:18,860 –> 01:03:21,242
[jk]: on twitter had one an jake
1981
01:03:21,077 –> 01:03:21,097
[paris_vega]: m
1982
01:03:21,362 –> 01:03:24,725
[jk]: molina and i’m there if you have
more than two thousand twitter followers and you
1983
01:03:24,905 –> 01:03:29,069
[jk]: d like to moneys your audience to
thirty thousand dollars small were there for you
1984
01:03:29,396 –> 01:03:32,831
[paris_vega]: m awesome all right we’ll see ou
next time guys
1985
01:03:33,431 –> 01:03:33,451
[jk]: i
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